AMH - vicious rumour or the truth?

[Jamie potton]

Quoting fozzy bear from 13:19, 7th Jan 2006

Quoting flarewearer from 13:14, 7th Jan 2006
Actually, a quick whizz through the listed buildings directory and Andrew Melville is not a listed building;

http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/wwd ... lBack=TRUE


either way, it can't be demolished. the architect is famous and you sometimes get dutch people (or foreigners from somewhere) coming over to see it and take pictures, im not sure why.

quite amusing that the buildings in the quad aren't listed buildings though and neither is sallies or any of the really posh, fancy buildings all the yahs like.

Hmmm...so I'm a "yah" for appreciating a fifteenth century chapel and steeple, and the rest of the Quad? Obnoxious drivel.
Oh, and the College, and all the surrounding walls have been listed since the 1950s.

[Fozzy Bear]

Quoting Jamie Potton from 16:56, 8th Jan 2006




Hmmm...so I'm a "yah" for appreciating a fifteenth century chapel and steeple, and the rest of the Quad? Obnoxious drivel.
Oh, and the College, and all the surrounding walls have been listed since the 1950s.

that isnt what i actually said. what i meant was that when i was in Melville, i don't recall there being even one yah staying there. i dont think ive met any really posh people doing sciences either (im not saying there arent any, ive just not met them). most of the posh people ive seen in town live in the fancy old buildings and study arts subjects in similar old buildings.

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I like to know what's around the corner. That's why i always carry a mirror.

[munchingfoo]

Yes, he did say "all the yahs like" rather than "only the yahs like". If on the other hand you considered yourself a yah and didn't like the old architecture you may have something to gripe about.

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I'd like to change the world but they won't give me the source code.

[Midget]

I don't think much of Sallies personally so I'm not surprised its not listed.

Although I do like my department (Philosophy) 's building Edgecliffe, so I suppose that makes me a yah?

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[flarewearer]

Everybody knows, ALL yahs live in luxurious penthouse flats paid for out of Daddy's trust funds and everyone else lives an ascetic life of austerity within the concrete bosom of Andrew Melville hall.

Duh!

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[harmless loony]

Yeh I agree with Midget....Edgecliffe is a fab building - the best time to see it is during a thunderstorm - back in my first year I was going past it in the evening during a lightening storm and lightening struck somewhere in the distance but it made the building look even more gothic and creepy!

And no TRFTWW I will not be discussing the outcomes of any kitchen meetings on here - they stay strictly between the old inmates of diner 1.3 and the beloved uncle mark.

In terms of raising the student population to 10,000 - surely the university powers must have thought about the library facilities or are they really that dumb? I've not been able to find a seat to study in there during the exam period - and our student body is currently half the size of what the uni intends...:s

Also in terms of affordable accomodation - I thought there was an agreement that a certain percentage of uni accomodation would remain "affordable." Although I am not entirely sure what the definition of that is meant to be.

[flarewearer]

Quoting Humphrey from 16:33, 8th Jan 2006
The Union, however, is located on a historic street in the centre of one of Scotlands oldest settlements. Its essentially a cultural atrocity.

I'm all for the demolishment of the Union, well, maybe just all the floors above the main bar as they seem to serve little to no purpose. Perhaps keep venue 2 on stilts or something, accesible by a chairlift, too many happy memories of that place to let it be destroyed. The rest can be replaced by a giant bouncy-version of the St Andrews castle.

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[flarewearer]

Quoting harmless loony from 17:44, 8th Jan 2006
Also in terms of affordable accomodation - I thought there was an agreement that a certain percentage of uni accomodation would remain "affordable."

It really depends who they want to be able to afford it, doesn't it.

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[Al]

I don't think much of Sallies personally so I'm not surprised its not listed."

Except, of course, it is listed.

[burn_it_to_the_ground]

Quoting __Sam__ from 16:05, 8th Jan 2006

Quoting burn_it_to_the_ground from 02:48, 8th Jan 2006
It's a shithole! Never mind watching it sink and forget blasting, just burn that mother to the ground.

Have you lived in it? Have you even been in it for that matter? No one I know here moans about it other than in a joking fashion and I'd say we'd be in the best position to judge no?

Acutally, I did live there, for a whole semester actually. So, spin on it!

[Kenny MacDonald]

Quoting burn_it_to_the_ground from 18:52, 8th Jan 2006

Quoting __Sam__ from 16:05, 8th Jan 2006

Quoting burn_it_to_the_ground from 02:48, 8th Jan 2006
It's a shithole! Never mind watching it sink and forget blasting, just burn that mother to the ground.

Have you lived in it? Have you even been in it for that matter? No one I know here moans about it other than in a joking fashion and I'd say we'd be in the best position to judge no?

Acutally, I did live there, for a whole semester actually. So, spin on it!

It's not that bad.

And I've lived there for SEVEN YEARS - so there!

[__Sam__]

Quoting burn_it_to_the_ground from 18:52, 8th Jan 2006

Quoting __Sam__ from 16:05, 8th Jan 2006

Quoting burn_it_to_the_ground from 02:48, 8th Jan 2006
It's a shithole! Never mind watching it sink and forget blasting, just burn that mother to the ground.

Have you lived in it? Have you even been in it for that matter? No one I know here moans about it other than in a joking fashion and I'd say we'd be in the best position to judge no?

Acutally, I did live there, for a whole semester actually. So, spin on it!

I won't spin on it cos ur clearly not a real melvillite if ur whinging about it. Were you one of the losers who stayed rotting in their room all the time?

[Glasgow]

I can't believe Stirling University is 36 0n that top 100 list. ALL their accomodation is one huge neverending depressing Andrew Melville a like, you have difficulty passing someone comfortably in the corridors, and the rooms are miniscule!(although the breezeblock walls were nice and thick!)

[burn_it_to_the_ground]

Kenny we all know that you're a right saddo. Who in their right mind would stay in Melville for seven years? You've carried your cross long enough, it's time to let go.

To _Sam_
I certainly was not one of those loosers who stayed in my room, besides if I had I'd probably have some kind of lung condition by now what with all the rotting damp they have, but I don't. I gave the place a go, it didn't work out. I wondered what I'd done to piss God off so much that instead of just killing me he decided that Melville was to be my punishment.

And you've got a nerve thinking I'm a looser, you call yourself a melvillite! Pah!

Burn it I say!!

[__Sam__]

Whats a looser? Everyone who lives in melville is by default a melvillite - sadly, even you were at some point although you probably didn't like it because you didn't fit in (bless); everyone I know here loves Melville and will defend it no matter what, maybe you thought you were slumming it there.

[Fozzy Bear]

i'm guess mr unreg burn it is from somewhere higher up the social ladder than most people in melville.
when i was there, there weren't any (that i know) posh people living in melville. so i guess its possible that one or two go tput there when they wanted to stay in a nice, well furnished, historical building near their classes.
unfortunately they got put in melville and have a thing against it because they got wet walking to the quad a couple of times a day.

ive never met anyone who stayed in melville who didnt love it. granted, most people complain about it and say how awful it was, but no one ive spoken to was serious about this.

and you lived there for a whole semester. WOW. good for you, most people stayed there for at least a year if not longer.
just because AMH may not have been up to the high class you were expecting doesnt make it worth burning down, its got the best atmosphere of all the halls ive been in.

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I like to know what's around the corner. That's why i always carry a mirror.

[bur_it_to_the_ground]

God!? Now there is rules for being a melvillite. For every place you live in do you put 'ite' afterwards just to feel a sense of belonging?

I don't remember any initiation cermony when I got to Melville or a certificate, as far I was concerned it was a place to stay. And yeah, you could say I was slumming it in Melville, what else would you be doing in that shithole?

Burn it! And preferably with all those who think of themeselves as melvillites in it! Mwahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!

[__Sam__]

fozzy bear is right, everyone who stays in melville loves it...in fact this is by so much the majority that I actually doubt you lived there - and what precisely is your experience of halls anyway? My parents say they lived in places just like this and all my friends at other unis have less floor space than me, have food that is *always* crap whereas they can do things right here.
Let's face it, everyone who hasn't lived there doesn't get Melville, they think its shite but the people make the hall and even if we don't have the facilities of New Hall or DRA we have character and the living environment is perfectly fine - if it wasn't so different architecturally then no-one would bat an eyelid - just a typical hall of residence with more atmosphere.
Go and live back with mummy and daddy and the butler if you don't like "slumming" it.

[munchingfoo]

I'd agree with this. I have lived in Fife Park for four years and I am quite fond of it. It's unbelieveable how many people say it's crap, falling down, shit etc (which to some extent it is but not so much that it doesn't make it better value for money than any other accom in st andrews) and then when you ask them they have never even been out here before, let alone actually gone into a house or experienced the atmosphere of Fife Park. Fife Park isn't for everyone. It isn't a hall as such so you have to be out going to make friends. Being an introverted recluse is one way to hate Fife Park, but this shows a flaw in your character not the hall in which you live.

A hall is what the people living there make it. Anyone who thinks a hall can be summed up by it's architectural merit/cleanliness/cost etc must, in my opinion, be exceptionally shallow and superficial.

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I'd like to change the world but they won't give me the source code.

[exnihilo]

Splendid, a class war. What fun. Still, in these classless days its a handy shibboleth, one can simply ask a person if he likes AMH or not, if he doesn't he's clearly a public-schoolboy, yah, and general posh git whereas if he does he's right-on, one of the people and an all round good egg.

Sigh.