Why does the university not make it clear where/when lectures are supposed to be?

[hmmmhaveabanana]

Despite the exsistance of WebCT, email, post and notice boards, the University seems to have decided that it would rather make students guess when and where their lectures are. I know the course catalogue gives some details but it doesn't always say when/where lectures are. Why can't the university be a little more organised?

[flossy]

Anyone know where and when SA1002 enrols?

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Not to put too fine a point on it, say I'm the only bee in your bonnet

[Thackary]

All the information is available to you.
This system has been put in place to weed out the inept from the outset. Those who can't work out where they're supposed to go aren't allowed to continue their course at St Andrews.

Obviously there is a little leeway for new students this semester, but if you've been here for 5months already, you should really know your way around, or at least know where to find the information you need...

[Thalia]

Most subjects, if you can't find where the lecture's held on their website then it'll be on a noticeboard somewhere in the department. You've gone to the effort of getting into uni, i'm sure you can cope with not being personally emailed a location and directions for where you're meant to be

Feel free to come on here and ask if you've left finding out to the last minute and it's not online but it seems pretty stupid to come on and complain that everything isn't handed to you on a plate.

And Flossy - SA1002 should be in the buchanan theatre (that's where it was when i did it anyway). I think at 4 but the course catalogue should tell you that.

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The shadow proves the sunshine...

[Bonnie]

Ah, but such a file does exist-- Ben Reilly told me that he has a file that simply lists the courses and where their lectures are.
If the University has already created such a thing for their own ease, they should simply post it on the student portal. If their computery greatness can give individuals their own exam timetabling (without me having to tell the programme what courses I'm taking-- it just knows!)-- why don't they put it up there too?



AND-- you're assuming all departments are accessible! The buildings in this University don't conform to DDA, so the University CANNOT assume that students can physically visit every department-- having things only on noticeboards which are in buildings not DDA compliant is illegal.
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I love cheese.

[Thackary]

Good point(s) Bonnie and Thalia.

And much more receptive than my response...

[Bonnie]

By the way, if any IR person reads this

the department has made their timetable available on-line (don't remember this from two yars ago)

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/intrel/Time ... 005-06.htm



Only slightly annoyingly, my courses don't have their full handbook online like my previous one did-- it just made it easier when I inevitably lost my paper copy for a few days or just didn't happen to have it with me but was near a computer.-- not a requirement or am I really that upset, but it 's handy and the lecturer will already have it on electronic file so uploading that file instead of a new little course description for the "Degrees and Reading Lists" page is just as time-consuming.

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I love cheese.

[Colin]

Quoting thackary from 09:23, 6th Feb 2006
or at least know where to find the information you need...

The Sinner, traditionally. So much easier than going and finding out for yourself.

[Ben Reilly]

Quoting Bonnie from 10:15, 6th Feb 2006
Ah, but such a file does exist-- Ben Reilly told me that he has a file that simply lists the courses and where their lectures are.

I do???!!

I wish people would tell me these things!

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http://www.yourunion.net/main/representation/

[maenad]

Even when the info *is* online, I find the uni website really badly organised. I found my enrolment times on a noticeboard in the department building. Sometimes I like it that Classics does things the old-fashioned way.

When does WebCT change to the new semester?

[niall]

when i did maths, all my course information was handed out in pre-sesh, i would assume they still do this, so its your own fault for losing it

plus the info was also on the department noticeboards!

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do you have a tastyspoon?

http://www.tastyspoon.com/forum

[flossy]

Sorry, I just decided at 8 this morning that I wanted to do the module, so my bad. Everything sorted now.

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Not to put too fine a point on it, say I'm the only bee in your bonnet

[Ellkie]

Didn't we get a double sided sheet of paper 5 months ago when we were being 'advised', telling us when and where all the lectures were/are being held?
Doesn't really matter 'cause obviously i've lost it.

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It's all GEEK

[Bonnie]

Quoting Ben Reilly from 10:46, 6th Feb 2006

Quoting Bonnie from 10:15, 6th Feb 2006
Ah, but such a file does exist-- Ben Reilly told me that he has a file that simply lists the courses and where their lectures are.

I do???!!

I wish people would tell me these things!

What were you and Laura looking at last night to find the English Department's schedule and you said "Oh, I have a central list" I distinctly remember you saying the word "central"

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I love cheese.

[Ben Reilly]

That's just the School of English.

For some reason they send me the list every semester.

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http://www.yourunion.net/main/representation/

[munchingfoo]

I wonder where this univeristy culture of expecting spoon feeding has come from?

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Anyone questioning how I post on the sinner, my new way of life, will offend my "religion" and as such will be dealt with in manners inclusive but by no means exlusive of death threats, random acts of violence, maiming of the general public not involved in this matter and finally a Jihad from all my fellow religious sinners.

For years we have been oppressed by you post nazis, the time of change is upon us.

[hmmmhaveabanana]

It's not spoon feeding at all, its simply telling you where your lectures are! If you have been to your advisor in 2nd semester you will get the info telling you where to enrol. However, if you start a new subject in 2nd semester (and your not a JSA) then you won't have any info telling you where to go. Also bear in mind the fact that if you only get back to town from the 2 week break on the weekend before semester starts then more often than not you wont be able to get into most of the department buildings to look at the notices. As someone rightly pointed out, if the uni can with virtually no effort tell everyone when and where their exam is, then they should also tell people where/where their classes are.

[ronald villiers]

because you're not at primary school anymore. no longer will you be spoon-fed.

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If at first you don't succeed, in wi' the boot an' then the heed.

[Thalia]

I think there's a bit of a difference between the fact that the uni can give an easy to find location list, and whether or not they feel that they should

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The shadow proves the sunshine...

[hmmmhaveabanana]

In future perhaps I will hide my tutorial answers somewhere in the university and ask my tutor to find them himself telling him he shouldn't be spoon fed.