Prostitutes demand GTA ban

[munchingfoo]

I wouldn't quite go as far as your final sentence but on the whole I agree.

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

[Lodestone]

Nobody, regardless of their lifestyle, can ever lose a fundamental right. You don't forfeit the, though they can be curbed in the interests of rights with precedence. So if freedom of speech--freedom to complain--is a right, then you can't exactly claim that prostitutes don't have it.

Doesn't stop their claims from being silly, though.

[Rufus]

Quoting dunqn from 12:29, 20th Mar 2006
A life of prostitution is a choice. Yes, you make much more money from it but you CHOSE TO DO THAT. They've no right to complain, whatsoever. Sell your soul, sell your right to whine about things.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/16/gta_ban_demand/

Bumf. I take it you've never heard of sex trafficking, or you have and your almighty - and frankly ridiculous - hatred for prostitution has made you disregard it?

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/sextraffic/

[Lodestone]

Quoting dunqn from 12:42, 20th Mar 2006
Gypsies and illegal immigrants don't have certain rights. In this country, yes, they've the right not to be tortured etc, but they don't have the right to complain about anything.

Of course they do. Freedom of speech is right up there with freedom from torture &c.

I suspect what you're saying, and what makes slightly more sense, is that the government is under under no obligation to take that complaining into account.

[coco]

Please explain to me why in this 'enlightened' age prostitution is so wrong. How does it constitute selling one's soul? I'm not saying it's a career I'd go in for but I really don't understand why people have a problem with it! Do you feel the same towards porn stars, pin-ups etc? I'm just curious. x

Quoting dunqn from 12:29, 20th Mar 2006

Ladies of the night have jumped on the pop a cap in GTA bandwagon by demanding that "all parents and all gamers boycott Grand Theft Auto"

Do they have the right? I don't think they do. "Oh you insensitive cretin, what do you know, you think these poor people are prostitutes because they want to be?" Oh please, shut up. You can get a job at ASDA or somewhere without even the slightest bit of hassle. A life of prostitution is a choice. Yes, you make much more money from it but you CHOSE TO DO THAT. They've no right to complain, whatsoever. Do you see the Police making a fuss? No, and it's pretty much the player's responsibility to murder hundreds or thousands of policemen in the game. The type of people that play GTA are hardly going to hunt down prostitutes and murder them with a 14" double ended blue dildo after playing a game, so... I personally don't think they have a leg to stand on. Sell your soul, sell your right to whine about things.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/16/gta_ban_demand/

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[coco]

But models and prostitutes both use their bodies for profit, surely?

I agree that the prostitutes' complaint doesn't stand. I just don't understand why you object to prostitution.

But hey, nevermind. Just chill.....Runs away....

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The mind is its own place and in itself can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.

[Rufus]

dunqn: Ah. Well. Apologies for being blinded to semantics by outrage.

[ribs]

Quoting dunqn from 12:29, 20th Mar 2006
A life of prostitution is a choice. Yes, you make much more money from it but you CHOSE TO DO THAT.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/16/gta_ban_demand/

It's not a choice for the tens of thousands of teenage girls (and boys) who are stolen from their homes and exploited every year.
It's naive to think they had any choice in the matter or receive any money in return.

However I for one think legalising prostitution should be considered (if you are of a minimum age naturally). It could do something to alleviate some of the crime, terrible living conditions and violence associated. They should also have a union What does everyone else think?

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Kyra: "Who's the Better Killer?"
Riddick: Let's play.

[ARTooD2]

How could prostitues have a union? WHo would the complain to to get better conditions??

Quoting ribs from 13:18, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting dunqn from 12:29, 20th Mar 2006
A life of prostitution is a choice. Yes, you make much more money from it but you CHOSE TO DO THAT.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/16/gta_ban_demand/

It's not a choice for the tens of thousands of teenage girls (and boys) who are stolen from their homes and exploited every year.
It's naive to think they had any choice in the matter or receive any money in return.

However I for one think legalising prostitution should be considered (if you are of a minimum age naturally). It could do something to alleviate some of the crime, terrible living conditions and violence associated. They should also have a union What does everyone else think?

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Kyra: "Who's the Better Killer?"
Riddick: Let's play.

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[neener]

i think this is a disgusting post and the way you talk about these "whores" is absolutely appalling. You come off as so ignorant i want to vomit.
Prostitutes are constantly being killed and beaten by sick fucking disgusting people. Many prostitutes get forced to act out scenes from violent pornography by their customers. That is a fucking problem and its a problem for all of us because it says alot about our culture. I hope to god you have a sister that gets into the wrong crowd and pushed into prostitution and then i hope when you see her you get to see the cigarette burns on her arms from her fucking customers.
And then i hope ur surrounded by assholes who say she deserves it because she accepts money for sex.
Why do women get all the shit about this? look at the fucking filthy men that go to them and abuse their bodies.
And Rufus raised an excellent point about sex traffiking which is forced sex slavery and the money goes to the men that own them.
I have worked with prostitutes and i know alot about their lives so dont you fucking say that they choose it until you have walked in their shoes and been raped by your father from a young age. This is the most disugusting post i have ever read and i want to take it to class so i can use it to show the sheer fucking stupidity of people.

[Rufus]

Oh dear. Poor dunqn. He's lovely really (and did explain that his prostitute-bashing was in relation to their reaction to GTA, rather than an opinion of all ladies of the night).

[Rufus]

Nope. Sorry. I'm not that bright, and added to this cerebral disadvantage is the fact that so much time farting about on this acursed messageboard recently, has addled what little brains I had.

[neener]

Quoting dunqn from 14:40, 20th Mar 2006
You do realise I made the post mostly for controversy's sake, right?

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[Steveo]

Quoting ribs from 13:18, 20th Mar 2006
It's not a choice for the tens of thousands of teenage girls (and boys) who are stolen from their homes and exploited every year.
It's naive to think they had any choice in the matter or receive any money in return.

However I for one think legalising prostitution should be considered (if you are of a minimum age naturally). It could do something to alleviate some of the crime, terrible living conditions and violence associated. They should also have a union What does everyone else think?

That your opinions are invalid.

Legalise prostitution? Pull the other one will you. It won't solve anything, and I'll enlighten you as to why.

You get your legal, government certified, disease free prostitutes. As a result of them being all checked out, they can demand a higher price for their services.

What does this result in? Yes - a lower class of cheaper whores to fill the gap in the market for cheap sex.

All you do with legalisation is create a big bill for the already burdened tax payer, and make conditions worse for the lowest.


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[Steveo]

Quoting neener from 14:46, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting dunqn from 14:40, 20th Mar 2006
You do realise I made the post mostly for controversy's sake, right?

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Doesn't make any of it less true, though.

Social cancers.

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Set your goals way too high so I can laugh when you fail.

[Rilla]

Quoting dunqn from 12:42, 20th Mar 2006
Gypsies and illegal immigrants don't have certain rights. In this country, yes, they've the right not to be tortured etc, but they don't have the right to complain about anything. Do whores pay taxes?

This is perhaps the most ignorant and disturbing thing I've ever read on the sinner.


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[neener]

Quoting Steveo from 15:00, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting neener from 14:46, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting dunqn from 14:40, 20th Mar 2006
You do realise I made the post mostly for controversy's sake, right?

THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD.

Doesn't make any of it less true, though.

Social cancers.

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Set your goals way too high so I can laugh when you fail.

Piece of shit.

[Diesel]

Quoting neener from 15:05, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting Steveo from 15:00, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting neener from 14:46, 20th Mar 2006
[quote]Quoting dunqn from 14:40, 20th Mar 2006
You do realise I made the post mostly for controversy's sake, right?

THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD.

Doesn't make any of it less true, though.

Social cancers.

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Set your goals way too high so I can laugh when you fail.

Piece of shit.[/quote]

That's exactly what they are, a piece of shit on the shoe of society, with thier STDs and such like.

[Roulette]

Two flaws:

Children are more likely to imitate the actions of a character with whom they identify. In violent video games the player is often required to take the point of view of the shooter or perpetrator.

I don't believe I've seen a GTA game with an age rating less than fifteen. The majority of them, I think, have an age rating of eighteen. Assuming a "child" is under the age of fifteen/eighteen, that statement is rendered unnecessary.

I'm aware under eighteen year olds will get their hands on a copy of the game and no doubt play it - that's unavoidable. But no games store should sell them the game without proof that they are the correct age.

Yes, someone like a parent, sibling, older friend may buy them - I bought fifteen and eighteen titles for my brother when he was too young to purchase them, and my mother did the same - but if they're going to take enough of an interest in said childs gaming lifestyle to buy them the game, they should take enough interest to make sure that the child is mature enough to handle the materials in the game as well.

In short: if a child is that vulnerable to the influences in the game, it is the parents responsibility to make sure they don't play it, simple as. If a child is effected enough by the themes in said game, it is no ones fault but the parents.

The "protential danger" is already outlined in the age rating. 'nuff said.

The prostitutes, like every other character, are also subject to homicide at the hands of the protagonist

Key phrase: like every other. I'm not saying protistutes have less rights than your average human being - I'm saying they have the same. And people of equal right are being killed off in the game too. So there you go.

Surely, if not just protitutes are being killed, then kids protentially going out and murdering prostitutes is not the problem - kids protentially going out and murdering ANYONE is the problem.

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Lame, but cooler than you.

[Rilla]

Quoting dunqn from 15:18, 20th Mar 2006
No, it's quite true. Read what i wrote - "certain rights", don't just read what the easily irritated liberal inside you wants to see. They've basic human rights, but I was referring to healthcare, security etc. If they're going to utilise the services provided by the state, then they are morally obliged to serve it - by paying taxes. If I didn't pay taxes (which I have done every time i've worked) then I too would have no right to the aformentioned. The main point of my post is that prostitutes - ok, should have the *right to* complain but, as Lodestone said, no reason to expect anything to be done about it. If prostitution were legalised and taxed I would have no problem with their action - I wouldn't have made the first post.

I'm aware that immigrants etc sometimes don't have a choice, fair enough, especially if they're refugees/asylum seekers etc, but there are ways to go about getting things together that the state helps with. If people don't contribute or make an effort then they should not expect anything in return.

Yes, I am easily irritated when I read this sort of post.
The main part that I objected to was the "Do whores pay taxes?"
Yes - everybody for one,pays VAT.
Apart from that, are you saying that only people who pay p.a.y.e. are entitled to healthcare? or an education? or protection from the police? Because that is a dangerous argument to get into!!


Also, as neener said - most prostitutes do NOT "choose" their career. it's not something someone aspires to do - standing out in the cold, it's a dangerous profession! It's also heavily involved with drugs - it's a complex issue - you can't say that someone decides after leaving school - oh, i know, a career selling my body, that's what I'll do.


But the main thing I object to in your post is the idea that you don't deserve protection if you don't pay tax.



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