Who is the new association president?

[Akasha]

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[Oli]

There is much talk of "if you don't like it, get involved".

Someone new to the Union has taken the iniative, become involved, and is now being criticised for doing so.

While I realise that these comments have come from different people, it's very much a case of "damned if you do; damned if you don't".

The elections are meant to be as democratic as possible, and we have a winner.
Let's not put Mr D'Ardenne down before he starts; give him chance to prove himself, and then make a decision once his term has been concluded.

Let's try to concentrate on the positives - Tom is relatively new to the Union. Perhaps this will bring a breath of fresh air and a new outlook. Perhaps he will bring new enthusiasm, and encourage even more people to get involved.

[Elections Officer]

I will post the full results tomorrow when I can think straight!

Bella

[Kenny MacDonald]

Grandpa, your complaint against the EOC does not stand up to scrutiny.

The EOC is accountable. All candidates have the right to appeal to the Chairman of the Students' Association, Ann Kettle, who has the final say on any decision made. In this case, she upheld an appeal against Tom's disqualification, and we all must accept this decision.

The EOC has worked extremely hard for the past fortnight, sometimes with members putting in excess of 12 hours a day, all voluntarily and with little thanks.

All decisions by the EOC were made very carefully, discussed at length, and made in good faith.



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[Guest]

Quoting flarewearer from 18:24, 22nd Mar 2006

Do you mean to say that defeat hasn't been graciously conceded?

Considering he got his appeal upheld based on the fact that EOC "forgot to e-mail him" about a rule clarification that they said straight to his face, seeing as he broke every rule in the book?

I would imagine so... from someone in the know.

[Guest]

Anyone know the scores, or even who came second and third?

[hahaprestonbyrn]

sid quit yer whinin........

The union is meant to represent students, so who better than someone who is intelligent and knows about the students not someone whos necessarily been on the inside of the union for ages not doing much.

[Guest]

Quoting SerialKeeler from 22:42, 22nd Mar 2006
People want change...not just kicking a dead horse.

Three default hack sabbaticals to one non-hack would seem to suggest otherwise.

[Harry Giles]

Quoting from 22:47, 22nd Mar 2006

Quoting SerialKeeler from 22:42, 22nd Mar 2006
People want change...not just kicking a dead horse.

Three default hack sabbaticals to one non-hack would seem to suggest otherwise.

What does one do to qualify as a hack? Lee Kane, as ffar as I know, has been involved only this year, but seems to get repeatedly called a hack. I, on the other hand, have been working in the SRC since November, but don't seem to qualify for hackhood yet.

The word "hack" is bandied about too often, and people seem to use it in different ways. What did you mean?

[Akasha]

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[Ben Reilly]

Quoting falach from 19:11, 22nd Mar 2006
While for DOSDA and DOES this will help, the positions of Pres and DOR dont need the same sort of knowledge of the union, they just need the motivation to help people and do the job in hand. I dont see how knowing how the union works will help the union President to a great extent!

Actually, I would say that the most important things for DoR are knowledge of Higher Education Policy, University Procedures and Processes, things like that. Just wanting to help people is nowhere near enough. There are many ways that this knowledge can be obtained, and being a "hack" is just one of them.
For President on the other hand, what is needed is a desire to communicate with the student body about what is happening.

[Midget]

Well thank God we don't have a faggot for President, that would be gay overkill.

Anyway well done Tom, all the best.

Seth

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[Bizarre Atheist]

Quoting Midget from 12:41, 23rd Mar 2006
Well thank God we don't have a faggot for President, that would be gay overkill.

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Err, did he really just say that?

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[Midget]

I am referring to myself, I think I'm allowed to call myself a faggot?

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[butenominee]

please don't say that lee kane and the other uncontested candidates were elected 'by default', if people didn't want them to be in the positions, they would have voted RON.

[Lodestone]

Quoting butenominee from 12:58, 23rd Mar 2006
please don't say that lee kane and the other uncontested candidates were elected 'by default', if people didn't want them to be in the positions, they would have voted RON.

No, the majority of people do indeed vote in favour of a candidate by default, and not necessarily because they know they want that candidate. This is shown by the fact that our new Member for Absent Students was elected despite telling people to vote RON.

I don't want to detract from the efforts of the new sabbs, as it's not their fault, and I suspect they deserved to elected, but that's still the way it is.

[Sid]

I think the "hacks" as you people call them are being treated very unfairly on this thread. These people who constantly get involved in the union do so because they care and they want to make a difference, many of them also neglect their degree in order to stand up for what they believe in, it's not just for a gold star on their CV. But not many of you here don't seem to appreciate that and I just don't understand why.

[Alex Jennings]

As I was at the count, I have the results of the Presidency (numbers, etc.) I hope they are as accurate as possible and will serve as a guideline until the EOC posts the official results.

ROUND ONE
TV: 1606 TVV: 1580 Quota: 791

RON: 101
Preston: 359
Seth: 269
Tom: 412
Anders: 265
Bonnie: 115
Brendan: 59
BRENDAN "FURRY HAT" MOROSO IS REDISTRIBUTED.

ROUND TWO
TVV: 1564 Quota: 783

RON: 104
Preston: 373
Seth: 275
Tom: 419
Anders: 213
Bonnie: 120
RON IS REDISTRIBUTED.

ROUND THREE
TVV: 1530 Quota: 766

Anders: 279
Bonnie: 135
Preston: 382
Seth: 282
Tom: 452
BONNIE RYDER IS REDISTRIBUTED.

ROUND FOUR
TVV: 1501 Quota: 751

Anders: 303
Preston: 406
Seth: 312
Tom: 480
ANDERS BJORJUNG IS REDISTRIBUTED.

ROUND FIVE
TVV: 1426 Quota: 714

Preston: 483
Seth: 373
Tom: 570
SETH EWIN IS REDISTRIBUTED.

ROUND SIX
TVV: 1343 Quota: 672

Preston: 600
Tom: 743
TOM D'ARDENNE IS DULY ELECTED.

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"Look, I told you when we met that I was not a leprechaun, that I was from Rhode Island, and that I was half Korean, but you said it didn't matter."

[Bonnie]

Quoting flarewearer from 20:14, 22nd Mar 2006

My point is that it is a free and open election and anyone (including the Gatty cats) can run.

Well, not really. As cats, they're not matriculated students of the University.

But you're right in thinking that any student can run and should be encouraged to do so if they feel up for it. That's what elections are-- dediciding out of the people that want to do a job which one is the msot capable.

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[Bonnie]

Quoting Andrew Cusack from 21:17, 22nd Mar 2006
Tom d'Ardenne, a damn fine man

I like that!
Say it out loud. I'm going to send him random e-mails next year with just that in them. I'll find it hilarious (even though no one else will).


But be careful, not all hacks are inherently evil. If someone does their job and works hard-- then it's a darn good thing to have them as a "hack".

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