Townspeople

[kate_m]

also, I think the now "usual" kilt, as opposed the the plaid which goes round the shoulder was used for armies as it didnt slow them down as much. Wet kilts are very heavy! But Im not sure about this.

[kate_m]

Dont believe all you read on Wikipedia! The trews were first worn by the english. I believe there is a similar gaelic word, most likely adopted by the englishmen who wore them to make them more authentic. The Scottish nobility started wearing them soon after their invention though.

[Eliot Wilson]

I don't believe everything I read on Wikipedia. I tend to go from that kind of information which they cunningly hide in books. Trews are no more (and, arguably, no less) an "English" invention than the modern kilt. Modern Highland dress is just that, modern, but that doesn't make it English. Unless you think that Walter Scott or Donald Cameron of Lochiel were English?

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Bill and Ted beat the Grim Reaper at Twister

Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."

[munchingfoo]

Who mentioned wikipedia (except you).

How about an historian?

http://www.albanach.org/kilt.html

Complete with citations and everything else needed for you to learn the truth.

As for Trews/ Truis/ triubhas

Perhaps you mis-understand the meaning of time. The scots had a word for trousers with tartan material called triubhas. How could this then, in the future, be used to get the word Trews in English at the time an Englishman invented tartan trousers? Surely triubhas/trews/truis must already have been inveted for a word for them to exist. :S

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[Guest]

Oh dear. Wikipedia is not correct all the time my dear friends. Trews were first worn by the english. I believe there is a similar gaelic word, but they were given their name by the englishmen who 1st wore them. Before gaelic was outlawed of course.

[Eliot Wilson]

When? Which English?

[hr]

Bill and Ted beat the Grim Reaper at Twister

Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."

[exnihilo]

So let me see if I understand this - WikiPedia says both? Or are people just spouting utter crap?

I'm not a betting man, but...

[the Empress]

Wow, I wasn't. It was an observation - people stop me on the street for directions. Probably because I'm short and female and therefore seem unthreatening. I don't mind. It's a positive interaction, and people in town are generally positve. That's what I was saying, obviously not well. Also, it *is* irritating when you've heard the same comment over again. Doesn't mean I'm not polite back.

Sheesh, get that chip on your shoulder looked at.

Quoting Manners from 13:04, 15th Apr 2008

Quoting the Empress from 23:50, 14th Apr 2008
I seem to be strangely approachable.

With smug, self-flattering comments like that I'm surprised you're approached at all.

[on a side note] I hate when people insist on making observations like 'oh, those bags look heavy!' or 'are those dogs walking you or you them!' Oh yes, total stranger no.3, I've never heard *that* before. How witty.

They might not be being original but they're at least being nice. You would do well not to put down any attempt at sociability in this day and age where you get evils just for smiling and saying "Good day".

[Hennessy]

Yeah I am sometimes accosted by those two little pissants who stand outside the games and entertainment on market street for fags. one day I'll be angry enough over something to say what i mean and tell them to fuck right off, but for the meantime a simple "NO!" loud and clear does the job and prevents unnecessary hassle.

I sometimes miss London, especially Tooting & Balham, for that late-at-night adrenaline boost you get walking back from the tube, when something like a mugging or a stabbing is entirely possible and indeed probable for some poor sod in your area, so you've got to be on your toes. I don't get that vibe here in StA, too many pansy students and even the neds are generally under the age of 15.

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"There is no Spoon"
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[nighteyes]

What the hell was so smug about that? Perhaps you should step down from your high horse and get yourself some of these manners that you speak of. For someone to call themselves approachable if they are forever being approached by strangers on the street it is a simple statement of fact. The one who is comming across as unpleasent and stuck up is yourself unreg.

Quoting Manners from 13:04, 15th Apr 2008

Quoting the Empress from 23:50, 14th Apr 2008
I seem to be strangely approachable.

With smug, self-flattering comments like that I'm surprised you're approached at all.

[on a side note] I hate when people insist on making observations like 'oh, those bags look heavy!' or 'are those dogs walking you or you them!' Oh yes, total stranger no.3, I've never heard *that* before. How witty.

They might not be being original but they're at least being nice. You would do well not to put down any attempt at sociability in this day and age where you get evils just for smiling and saying "Good day".

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i didnt say i was consistant, just right!

[sweet]

Goodness me so many mighty scraps on this here thread, I've actually forgotten what it was originally about...

I have some tea. Huzzah!

I've read a few kilt articles and came to the conclusion that while there was an englishman who came up with the idea of the small kilt (i.e. just the skirt bit) it was probably around before then, the main argument for this being that the scots aren't as daft as they are potato-looking and the great kilt's a wee bitty warm for summer whereas a wee one is just braw*




*sorry, couldn't resist. Also I am too lazy to back up with evidence so shall be happily proved wrong...

[munchingfoo]

no, you are, mostly, right. The English guy didn't really invent the small kilt. What he invented was a kind of two piece great kilt. Which, contained the modern kilt.

He was a blacksmith, and didn't want to get naked everytime he used the furnace, but the great kilt was to dangerous to use near the furnace. So he cut it in half, and could just take off the top bit when he wanted.

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