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Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby Sancia on Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:36 pm

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I got a housemate with endless complaints and troubles.

He is a French guy with life habits such as having all his pants washed once in 2 months, so he will complain me about using the washing machine "too frequently", which he considers harms his money as we are supposed to share the bills half by half. Same things happen to shower.

I have to admit that I am careless, sometimes I will leave the lamps in the doorway on for a quater when I am busy in kitchen. Whenever he caught me once, even that never happens again, he will complain this matter every time he metions life issues and in a tone like I have been doing that all the time. What is more, he will keep talking about my bad stories in office to other students and ruin my reputation (I am new here, he has been here for 3 yeas for his PhD). And these students are in a same office with me too! I really don't like talking about others' private things in office. I feel like I could do nothing helpful.

Also he will scold me for dirtyness for things like a leaf on the floor. He would say it was me who brought the leaf here and his only reason was that he believed it can not be him. (Well I can say I believe it was not me too, and actually it should be from the opening windows). However I am sorry to say his room has an abosolutely horrible smell, which indicates he does not really care for cleanness, he just wants to find me troubles. And he just simplely does not use the living room (having no visitors so far) and does not cook.

To scold me, he even made up scenes. For example, he moved out his bag and books (which had been on the floor of living room for months) several days before he came to me with a written list of my guilts, leaving my stuff (I have to say that was tidy) and public things only, and then accused me for "using the living room as personal storage place".

I think why he is doing all those is because he thinks I use more gas and electricity. I understand that he does not want to pay for what he does not use. But when I asked if he had any plans, he never gave an answer, but kept finding troubles and scolding to express his unsatisfication. I remembered when my laptop was on its way, he scold me that my small laptop would use more energy than his large desktop computer. He talked in such an ironic tone that I almost believed him, and so did other students in the office where he shouted to me I think. But my laptop was 75W, while a simple moniter could be more than this. And most small laptops charge far less than desktop computers in fact.

And his way of talking is so rude. I am a 160cm+ 21 year-old girl while he is like 180cm+ and 25+. He shouted at me, kicked my things. When I said you were not polite, he just paid no attention to me and even shouted "shut up" to me. Actually my speaking English is so poor that I would not be able to say a lot. When he shouted "shut up" for the third time, I left the table with no word and then he cut off my internet as a reward. And the last time he came to me, he said something like "if you are saying I am rude, I can show you what is rude". When he lived with another boy, who is as tall and as strong as him, he never dared to talk in a way like that.

I tried to ask the landlord for help. But the funny thing is that he plays two faces too well. He even convinced the landlord that he shouted "shut up" to me on my faults and he did have "very good reasons" to cut off my network. I regret that I did not have a recorder when he came to scold me.

I am feeling sad and desperate. The flat I am living is at a good plave and a good price. But I can not feel happy in a single day with present situation. Could anyone give an advice?

:( :( :( :(
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby Person on Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:37 pm

Sounds like his accusations are defensive. That is, he may know deep down that he isn't doing a great job cleaning up after himself and all that, so he feels the need to point out any fault you may have. It seems to me that if it's escalated to the point where you have open discussions about it, you should explain to him directly that if he has a problem with you, he should address you personally about it in private, instead of telling everyone about it. Tell him that it bothers you when he says negative things about you to the people in your department. As for the landlord (and everyone else), I wouldn't recommend making any complaints about your flatmate or trying to get "your side of the story" out - that might just make you seem as immature as your whiny flatmate. Nobody likes listening to people complaining about their flatmates. Chances are the people he complains to about you actually think his complaining is annoying.

As for the washing machine, that's pretty annoying. Men can really be disgusting creatures. Just because something doesn't have a visible stain on it doesn't mean it can't be dirty! I suppose you could make an arrangement where he pays a tiny bit less of the bill to account for that? Otherwise, I suggest using the economy settings on the washing machine if you don't already - it may work as a little gesture to show you are taking the issue into consideration.
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby ojk6 on Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:29 pm

From what you've said, he's a bully (cutting the internet off, etc.) and it sounds like he's making you feel threatened. Is there any possibility of you finding somewhere new to live?
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby milly on Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:41 pm

The way that your flatmate is behaving is bordering on abuse and shouldn't be tolerated. You should find another place to live, but in the meantime you should go and speak to student support about this and they will be able to give you advice on being assertive and handling situations like this. Nobody should be made to feel threatened in their own home!
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby Solstice on Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:47 pm

Seriously, move out! You should NOT be made to feel intimidated in your own home, and he shouldn't be undermining you at work either. There are no circumstances where it is acceptable to shout at a flatmate to tell them to 'Shut up' and he has no right to 'scold' you or to try and control your internet access!

As for the suggestion that you shouldn't try to get your side of the story out because people will think you're whining - I would say ignore it. Go and talk to student support, they are absolutely lovely and will really help you to decide what to do. If you really don't want to leave your flat then you might be able to come to some sort of arrangement about the bills (organising a kitty for the washing machine maybe?) but from the way you describe the situation, you're unlikely to become brilliantly happy flatmates.

Good luck, I hope things work out for you.
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby Senethro on Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:38 pm

His name is not Nico by any chance...?
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby munchingfoo on Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:42 pm

Nico Bellic?
I'm not a large water-dwelling mammal Where did you get that preposterous hypothesis? Did Steve
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby irish200 on Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:37 pm

Person wrote:Men can really be disgusting creatures.


Yes, lets make sweeping statements about all men because one smelly bastard is too tight to have a wash.
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby SpidersfromMars on Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:55 pm

irish200 wrote:
Person wrote:Men can really be disgusting creatures.


Yes, lets make sweeping statements about all men because one smelly bastard is too tight to have a wash.


She said CAN not ARE so it wasn't really that much of a genralisation. Anyway get the hell out of there, fast, sounds like its just going to get worse
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby Hennessy on Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:22 am

munchingfoo wrote:Nico Bellic?


:D

What can you do? Aside from being French, which never helps, he sounds like a prick and you need to get out of there. where are you from, OP?
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby irish200 on Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:05 am

SpidersfromMars wrote:
irish200 wrote:
Person wrote:Men can really be disgusting creatures.


Yes, lets make sweeping statements about all men because one smelly bastard is too tight to have a wash.


She said CAN not ARE so it wasn't really that much of a genralisation. Anyway get the hell out of there, fast, sounds like its just going to get worse


Well, being not "really that much of a generalisation" doesn't stop it from being a generalisation.
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby Person on Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:26 am

Sorry to all the clean and hygienic men out there. Perhaps I'm just overly sensitive to men who don't wash their clothes, as my boyfriend never washes his, wears the same stuff over and over again until (and sometimes after) you can see places where he's spilled stuff. Still needs me to help him whenever he does laundry, which is usually at my insistence. I guess I just hope it's to do with his inherent nature as a man, and not his own decrepitude.

Anyways, what I meant in my post earlier was that with this flatmate, you probably shouldn't try resolving the situation by trying to get your side of the story out to your landlord, and to the people in your department. But that doesn't mean not saying anything to student support services or someone else who can help! I just meant that people might be less sympathetic towards you if they are afraid of getting caught between you and your flatmate in a public fight that doesn't really concern them. If he doesn't let you use the internet, you should refuse to pay the bill for that. Perhaps if he sees how he is affecting you, he will be more understanding of how you affect him. Or maybe he's beyond that kind of understanding, who knows.
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby househunter on Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:50 am

Tell him to suck your dick.

That should shut him up.
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby the Empress on Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:17 pm

It is never acceptable to be physically intimidated in your own home. It should be a safe place. Definately talk to student support services, but maybe think about taking some self defence training. This should hopefully give you more confidence when he is confronting you (I'm not proposing attacking him, but it just gives you that bit extra, and makes him aware that you are prepared to defend yourself). You are not in a parental relationship, there is no way he should have disconnected your internet, especially when you had already disengaged from a difficult confrontation. This man is scum, move out! There'll always I think be a degree of conflct between flatmates over bills, but you just have to compromise, it's not a blame game, so don't take any guilt, as your behaviour seems reasonable. If he is mysteriously not aware that his behaviour is intimidating, bring up the issue in a reasonable tone the next time he starts. He might be defensive about it, but it should also give him a shock. Some people are unaware of exactly how they are projecting themselves. I would also point out the his behaviour in the office is unprofessional. If you feel bullied in the office, there are policies to protect you (see human resources or your employment handbook), so you can take action if necessary.
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Re: Housemate with endless complaints and troubles

Postby zn22 on Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:04 pm

Hello Sancia,

Since several people above have posted about moving out (and since I agree with them that his abusive behaviour is not acceptable) I thought I might offer a place. One of my flatmates has recently gone home for medical reasons and I currently have an empty room in a newly refurbished flat on South Street and about a three minute walk to tescos. If you are interested in moving out and interested in the flat, please let me know! My email is zn22@st-andrews.ac.uk Either way, good luck!
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