For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus - and non-believers
We will restore science to its rightful place, and wield technology's wonders to raise health care's quality and lower its cost. We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age. All this we can do. And all this we will do.
I only watched in case someone got shot wrote: Also, he messed up the crucial part, but then so would I with MILLIONS watching.
LonelyPilgrim wrote:I will never understand why some athiests take such a hostile view toward people of faith.
I'll acknowledge a certain irrationality in religious belief, but for crying out loud people... this does not automatically mean someone is going to make stupid decisions as a head of state. We all have irrational beliefs, albeit not all of us have *religious* irrational beliefs.
In what conceivable way will a pro-choice, pro-science, pro-multiculturalism, pro-internationalist president be negatively influenced by religious beliefs in his policy-making? I think it's quite safe to say, considering President Obama's record and public comments that he doesn't subscribe to either Biblical infallibility or the sort of narrow-minded and exclusionary head-in-the-sand sort of faith that President Bush often exhibited. So, I ask again, what negative impact are you folks so irrationally afraid of?
I hope he just used religious language to keep the raving bigoted brain-dead faithful quiet. Because any other reason is a BAD sign of things to come. The moment ANYTHING religious (read: make-believe, nonsense, irrational) interferes with Obama's governing is the moment something bad has happened but I'll except that nothing bad has actually happened yet.
LonelyPilgrim wrote:I will never understand why some athiests take such a hostile view toward people of faith. I'll acknowledge a certain irrationality in religious belief, but for crying out loud people...
Haunted wrote:LonelyPilgrim wrote:I will never understand why some athiests take such a hostile view toward people of faith. I'll acknowledge a certain irrationality in religious belief, but for crying out loud people...
I myself was not being hostile. But to answer your question, can you think of any other irrational belief in the invisible that is actively encouraged let alone described as being "virtuous"?
Haunted wrote:But to answer your question, can you think of any other irrational belief in the invisible that is actively encouraged let alone described as being "virtuous"?
Gubbins wrote:Haunted wrote:But to answer your question, can you think of any other irrational belief in the invisible that is actively encouraged let alone described as being "virtuous"?
Santa? I guess people tend to grow out of that one, though.
The non-believers bit was a bit insulting actually, he should have said atheist. You shouldn't make it sound like to not believe is how people should be defined as if it's somehow abnormal or wrong.
Guest wrote:Barack Obama has been inaugurated as the 44th President of the United States, as the first African-American president and bringing an end to the dumbfuck reign of Bush.
Thoughts?
Humphrey wrote:How about a belief in abstract entities like 'justice', 'the moral law', 'the equality and equal dignity of all human beings' and 'human rights'. You can enshrine these in legal documents, but in order to do that you first have to acknowledge their existence.
Haunted wrote:Humphrey wrote:How about a belief in abstract entities like 'justice', 'the moral law', 'the equality and equal dignity of all human beings' and 'human rights'. You can enshrine these in legal documents, but in order to do that you first have to acknowledge their existence.
Irrational though? There is perfectly good reason to, not so much 'believe' but, uphold the things you list. Why not mention time or space? They are abstract and invisible also, but are they irrational?
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