RandomMusings wrote:Magic?
A ladder?
The wind?
Seriously, what actually happened? I saw some people's facebook status mentioning it this morning, but have no idea what it's all about..... How high up the tower did this banner get? Anyone got any photos to post?
Jormungand wrote:RandomMusings wrote:Magic?
A ladder?
The wind?
Seriously, what actually happened? I saw some people's facebook status mentioning it this morning, but have no idea what it's all about..... How high up the tower did this banner get? Anyone got any photos to post?
It was put up there by the LGBT (with the agreement of the University) to celebrate LGBT History Month. There's a board about it in front of the entrance to Sallies.
ct3012 wrote:Jormungand wrote:RandomMusings wrote:Magic?
A ladder?
The wind?
Seriously, what actually happened? I saw some people's facebook status mentioning it this morning, but have no idea what it's all about..... How high up the tower did this banner get? Anyone got any photos to post?
It was put up there by the LGBT (with the agreement of the University) to celebrate LGBT History Month. There's a board about it in front of the entrance to Sallies.
That's a bit disappointing... I was hoping it was some sort of dramatic coup-attempt. Or at least some form of elaborate prank.
Senethro wrote:Does the LGBT movement have much history in the UK? Did they have a stonewall?
macgamer wrote:Given the way LGBTsoc treated him and the Chaplaincy last year I cannot imagine that he would be overly enthusiastic, especially if he was not consulted.
Jormungand wrote:For those of us who weren't here last year, could I ask what 'Mansefieldgate' is and who Jamie Walker is?
jollytiddlywink wrote:macgamer wrote:Given the way LGBTsoc treated him and the Chaplaincy last year I cannot imagine that he would be overly enthusiastic, especially if he was not consulted.
The way they treated him? You mustn't believe everything you read in the Saint, certainly the articles last year about what might be termed Mansefieldgate. Ironically enough, the next issue of the Saint announced proudly that St Andrews had been named the number two LGBT-friendly university in Europe!
The Mansefield Building Policies and Guidlines; Behaviour wrote:Excessive drinking of alcohol is not permitted, nor any form of pornography or nudity, nor gambling or games of chance.
A letter that was sent into The Saint after the incident wrote:Dear Editor,
I would like to express a few thoughts in response to Miss Kathryn Robinson's Viewpoint article in the last issue: 'LGBT: just a gay ole time?'
Miss Robinson expressed her confusion as to why there was a scandal, qualifying this later by suggesting the events that took place in Mansefield were 'typical' and a 'microcosm' of student life and societies in St Andrews - I should hope not!
What other society that uses the Mansefield feels it has the right to flagrantly contravene the house rules by using 'alcohol, other stimulants and nudity'? Why should this be inevitable? These as the photographs suggested, sound like the ingredients of a sex orgy, not something I think typical of society events in St Andrews.
The University is not spying on LGBTSoc when they post photographic evidence of their misdemeanours on Facebook for all to see and when one of their committee feels compelled to seek the counsel and intervention of the Students' Association and University. Miss Robinson explicitly admonished this action.
LGBTsoc supposedly aims to support LGBT persons and so this public endorsement of rather risky behaviour that provoked a member to complain anonymously, suggests a severe failure in this respect.
This has nothing, as Miss Robinson implies, to do with their shared sexuality and everything to do with decency and a lack of respect for themselves and the Chaplaincy team, which extended them every welcome.
In light of this, LGBTSoc is not fit for purpose and surely if anything can be described as a scandal this can.
macgamer wrote:The reason why such a to-do was made about the situation was regarding the contravention of the rules http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/students/policy/Chaplaincypolicyandguidelines/Mansefield/ governing the use of the Mansefield Chaplaincy.The Mansefield Building Policies and Guidlines; Behaviour wrote:Excessive drinking of alcohol is not permitted, nor any form of pornography or nudity, nor gambling or games of chance.A letter that was sent into The Saint after the incident wrote:Dear Editor,
I would like to express a few thoughts in response to Miss Kathryn Robinson's Viewpoint article in the last issue: 'LGBT: just a gay ole time?'
Miss Robinson expressed her confusion as to why there was a scandal, qualifying this later by suggesting the events that took place in Mansefield were 'typical' and a 'microcosm' of student life and societies in St Andrews - I should hope not!
What other society that uses the Mansefield feels it has the right to flagrantly contravene the house rules by using 'alcohol, other stimulants and nudity'? Why should this be inevitable? These as the photographs suggested, sound like the ingredients of a sex orgy, not something I think typical of society events in St Andrews.
The University is not spying on LGBTSoc when they post photographic evidence of their misdemeanours on Facebook for all to see and when one of their committee feels compelled to seek the counsel and intervention of the Students' Association and University. Miss Robinson explicitly admonished this action.
LGBTsoc supposedly aims to support LGBT persons and so this public endorsement of rather risky behaviour that provoked a member to complain anonymously, suggests a severe failure in this respect.
This has nothing, as Miss Robinson implies, to do with their shared sexuality and everything to do with decency and a lack of respect for themselves and the Chaplaincy team, which extended them every welcome.
In light of this, LGBTSoc is not fit for purpose and surely if anything can be described as a scandal this can.
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