Formal Dress Forum

[Andrew Cusack]

There was an all-night bakery? Where was it located?!? What a loss.

I've also recently been informed that God Save the Queen is not sung at graduation. Any thoughts on this discrepancy?

[Eliot Wilson]

Why would the National Anthem be sung at graduation (save in the presence of the sovereign, as last week)? The Gaudeamus is sung, quite properly.

[hr]

Bill and Ted beat the Grim Reaper at Twister

Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."

[Stuart]

Does anyone know which verses of the National Anthem were sung?

[BasilSeal]

The ANB was just round the corner from the Byre, if I remember correct, off South Street.

It was a FANTASTIC place--fresh pastries, oozing goodness!

[exnihilo]

Quoting Stuart from 17:19, 30th Jun 2005
Does anyone know which verses of the National Anthem were sung?

Not having been there, I don't know for sure, but it is normal to sing only the first verse, even in the presence of the monarch, so I would imagine just the one.

[puzzled]

Quoting Stuart from 17:19, 30th Jun 2005
Does anyone know which verses of the National Anthem were sung?

Call it a hunch, but sadly I'm guessing that the verse about the late great Marshall Wade wouldn't be sung...

[Jason Dunn]

Is the Gaudeamus peculiar to St Andrews, or has it been adopted by other seats of learning? I do believe Harvard's motto is Gaudeamus Igitur, though that doesn't prove that they sing it. Given that it is supposedly German, perhaps it's more popular in the Teutonic lands.

Perhaps Mr Paterson is the man to ask.

[bdw]

Quoting me bdw, quoting you, Eliot Wilson, aha.

Because it is also a "hallowed tradition" of some of the older American universities to sing the Gaudeamus. I can't explain the poppy metre.

Quoting bdw from 15:59, 1st Jun 2005
I am wondering why a rendition (in a poppy new metre) of the gaudie appears in the west wing ("Debate Camp").

Cannot format for shit.

[Andrew Cusack]

Quoting Eliot Wilson from 15:25, 30th Jun 2005
Why would the National Anthem be sung at graduation (save in the presence of the sovereign, as last week)? The Gaudeamus is sung, quite properly.

Well, it's a public event of importance, why not sing it? Perhaps to demonstrate loyalty and respect for the constitutional government of the realm and for the monarch herself.

Is the lack of the National Anthem a Scottish phenomenon (akin to the distinct absence of the Union flag from most of St Andrews), or is this nationwide?

I'm certainly not suggesting they should drop the Gaudeamus; that would be a most reprehensible act. I understand (from the BBC) that the Gaudeamus is sung as a processional. Perhaps once everyone's in and the opening prayer has been said, then the National Anthem ought to be sung. But then, perhaps not.

[Stuart]

Quoting Jason Dunn from 20:42, 30th Jun 2005

Perhaps Mr Paterson is the man to ask.

I have yet to hear it over here, but the fountain outside the main university building is called the Gaudeamus-Brunnen.

[RJ Covino]

Quoting Jason Dunn from 20:42, 30th Jun 2005
I do believe Harvard's motto is Gaudeamus Igitur

Funny belief to hold; their clothing, college crest etc. has "Veritas" all over it.

I saw a film once from the black and white era which had as its protagonist some manner of hick from Kansas or some such which charted his rise in society from earliest days to death. At his dust-bowl high school graduation ceremony (held in a corn-field, I seem to recall, sans gowns), they sang the Gaudie. I remember being suitably impressed that a Kansan acquired mastery over English, nevermind Latin.

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http://www.ralphcovino.com

[Laura]

Is anyone witnessing the madness on 'This Week' (BBC1 at the moment) maybe I'm over reacting, but our former Rector seems to think it's totally normal to interview political figures with practically every button on his shirt undone.
I am totally freaking out at his attempt at sex appeal- I keep having to look away from the TV because it is so gross.
'Oh look.... it's a ginger extra on Boogie Nights.'

Let's write to the BBC. It must be stopped...

[Eliot Wilson]

He'll be in his perpetual pursuit of the chocolate loving, no doubt.

"Mummy, why does that man have such big ears?"

"Ssssh, darling, he's a media mogul. From Paisley."

[hr]

Bill and Ted beat the Grim Reaper at Twister

Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."

[Laura]

Yeah, this says it all, really;

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/content/sh ... ion.brillo


Still so difficult to look at without vomming.

Actually, sorry- I guess no one wanted to be reminded.

[Anon.]

Quoting from 20:00, 28th Jun 2005
1. What is the correct atire to be buried in?

The same attire as one would wear to any other funeral.

[Dave the Explosive Newt]

Quoting Anon. from 02:01, 1st Jul 2005

Quoting from 20:00, 28th Jun 2005
1. What is the correct atire to be buried in?

The same attire as one would wear to any other funeral.

Convenient if you happen to keel over while you're there then? Although no doubt it's a bit impolite to make yourself the centre of attention.

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Will Watson. Medical Student. Cake Lover.

[exnihilo]

Quoting Jason Dunn from 20:42, 30th Jun 2005Is the Gaudeamus peculiar to St Andrews, or has it been adopted by other seats of learning? I do believe Harvard's motto is Gaudeamus Igitur, though that doesn't prove that they sing it. Given that it is supposedly German, perhaps it's more popular in the Teutonic lands.

There is no sense in which it is peculiar to St Andrews, indeed, relatively speaking, it's quite new to St Andrews. That it is "our" song is a most peculiar conceit that the University seems to have adopted.

Quoting Andrew Cusack from 21:48, 30th Jun 2005

Quoting Eliot Wilson from 15:25, 30th Jun 2005
Why would the National Anthem be sung at graduation (save in the presence of the sovereign, as last week)? The Gaudeamus is sung, quite properly.

Well, it's a public event of importance, why not sing it? Perhaps to demonstrate loyalty and respect for the constitutional government of the realm and for the monarch herself.

Is the lack of the National Anthem a Scottish phenomenon (akin to the distinct absence of the Union flag from most of St Andrews), or is this nationwide?

It's not a public event - it's a private event, by invitation only. The lack of national anthem singing is very much nation wide, we're not as prone to sing it at the drop of a hat as you are in the USA.

Quoting RJ Covino from 22:16, 30th Jun 2005I saw a film once from the black and white era which had as its protagonist some manner of hick from Kansas or some such which charted his rise in society from earliest days to death. At his dust-bowl high school graduation ceremony (held in a corn-field, I seem to recall, sans gowns), they sang the Gaudie. I remember being suitably impressed that a Kansan acquired mastery over English, nevermind Latin.

I always find it amusing to see Americans graduating to the tune of Land of Hope and Glory. Indeed, I also find it amusing to hear My Country Tis of Thee played sans words, it's a fine old tune - I wonder how many realise?

[exnihilo]

Double post. I hate dialup - I want my broadband back.

[Eliot Wilson]

I feel your pain.

A question that was asked before but not, as I recall, answered - where does one obtain slips, in a Prince of Wales stylee?

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Bill and Ted beat the Grim Reaper at Twister

Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."

[Steveo]

I've heard it sung in Stuttgart, perhaps they use it in the same way we do.

Quoting Jason Dunn from 20:42, 30th Jun 2005
Is the Gaudeamus peculiar to St Andrews, or has it been adopted by other seats of learning? I do believe Harvard's motto is Gaudeamus Igitur, though that doesn't prove that they sing it. Given that it is supposedly German, perhaps it's more popular in the Teutonic lands.

Perhaps Mr Paterson is the man to ask.