Ulster Unionist Club.

[Cain]

[s]Pilmour Boy wrote on 01:43, 8th Dec 2003:
[s]The Bigot's Bigot wrote on 01:20, 8th Dec 2003:[i]

As an aside, I think Trimble has done a reasonable job, and Northern Ireland is a better place now than it was before 1999 (excellent), albeit one in which some of the most depraved murderers in the world walk the streets (terrible).


Why is it terrible?

What function of justice would be satisfied by keeping them locked up?
[/i]

it won't be deterrence, or rehabilitation.

here's a hint: it starts with a P, and ends with a -rotection. or a -unishment

[The Bigot's Bigot]

However irrational and non-post-modern it may be, some people still believe that a crime should result in a punishment. I can understand that in today's Britain such antiquated views are no longer tolerable among the new seat-sniffing politically correct smart set.

The justice that would be served would perhaps be that owed to the families of the people murdered (breeze blocks dropped on heads etc.) by these animals for a minority cause with absolutely no moral legitimacy.

I will allow that during the Stormont era Catholics were discriminated against. Some would say that the IRA therefore had a role. I would not agree with them but I can see their point. Since the introduction of direct rule in 1971 there has been no discrimination against the Catholics of Ulster. So any remote semblance of moral legitimacy that the republican movement might have had (in the eyes of one with a brainless head) has gone.

Justice and retribution is a natural human need. we should not try to deny that. but then again political corectness and a disregard for the past is all about denying the truth.

[Homer]

I am a gay, single mother of seven, socialist of ethnic origin and would be extremely interested in joining your club Mr. Bigot.

Where can I find some more information?

[Amanda]

/me scratches out her eyes and brain to get an image of homer like that out of head.

[The Bigot's Bigot]

Homer, you can get all the info you need by looking at the website: www.intolerantbastard.bigot.net

Thanks for your interest.

[X]

I don't know anything about politics or religion or any of these terms they use, so I want to learn.

[The Cellar Bar]

[s]Cain wrote on 01:56, 8th Dec 2003:
[s]Pilmour Boy wrote on 01:43, 8th Dec 2003:[i]
[s]The Bigot's Bigot wrote on 01:20, 8th Dec 2003:[i]

As an aside, I think Trimble has done a reasonable job, and Northern Ireland is a better place now than it was before 1999 (excellent), albeit one in which some of the most depraved murderers in the world walk the streets (terrible).


Why is it terrible?

What function of justice would be satisfied by keeping them locked up?
[/i]

it won't be deterrence, or rehabilitation.

here's a hint: it starts with a P, and ends with a -rotection. or a -unishment
[/i]

Nelson Mandela, Benjamin Franklin, Monachem Begin, Golda Meier..........

[The Bigot's Bigot]

'Ulster' is one of the historic four provinces of Ireland. Th current province of Northern Ireland is based on six of the nine counties of Ulster. 'Ulster' is therfore often used to mean 'Northern Ireland'.

[Bugger Lugs]

I'll join.

[Homer]

Mr. Bigot, you appear to be yanking my chain, there is no such URL.

I have a perfectly valid question to relate to your society involving Marching rights and cannot seem to find out any information.

Please would you be so good as to contact me via this website, I must go now as little Nelson has been up all night after eating a particularly large tofu burger and I need to pop out and purchase some Homeopathic remedies for his chronic shitting with my overly large child benefit cheque!

[Anon.]

[s]Homer wrote on 12:12, 12th Dec 2003:
Mr. Bigot, you appear to be yanking my chain, there is no such URL.

Pas de merde, Sherlock.

[The Cellar Bar]

[s]Homer wrote on 12:12, 12th Dec 2003:
Mr. Bigot, you appear to be yanking my chain, there is no such URL.

I have a perfectly valid question to relate to your society involving Marching rights and cannot seem to find out any information.

Please would you be so good as to contact me via this website, I must go now as little Nelson has been up all night after eating a particularly large tofu burger and I need to pop out and purchase some Homeopathic remedies for his chronic shitting with my overly large child benefit cheque!

In terms of diet, maybe what you should look at is Nelson's intake of Vitamin C. Some fruits can be particularly effective in this area but others aren't.
Some fruits are thought to be good but on closer examination produce inexplicable volumes of shit which seems to get everywhere no matter how much you try and stop it going too far from source, as it were, before you tidy it up. The effusion is also pretty poisonous and noxious to others around the sufferer and people suffering from the complaint should be kept at home until the event is over.
Oranges are a particular problem in this regard.

[Homer]

Nope, far too subtle for me...

[The Cellar Bar]

[s]Homer wrote on 10:57, 14th Dec 2003:
Nope, far too subtle for me...


heh-heh - yeah, sorry about that! I've had the flu for a couple of days now so I haven't been able to get my thoughts down too clearly recently!!
Hope Nelson is feeling better, tho.

[The Bigot's Bigot]

Homer, the web address was just a test -those who look to access the site prove that they have what it takes to join our club.

[The Cellar Bar]

[s]The Bigot's Bigot wrote on 20:27, 14th Dec 2003:
Homer, the web address was just a test -those who look to access the site prove that they have what it takes to join our club.


that makes sense. It's reasonable enough I suppose given that it's for a part of the world that is incorrectly described by being some as "Ulster" when it's only a gerrymandered part of an historical entity and is inaccurately claimed to be part of Great Britain when it palpably isn't according to every constitutional description available.
A misleading web-site address is just par for the course under such circumstances -)))))

[The Bigot's Bigot]

What sort of 'constitutional description' did you have in mind? The majority of people in NI want to remain British, simple as that. As an aside, the only time Ireland has been 'united' has been when she has been under British rule. By the way, don't read too much into the whole fake email thing, actually this is just a bit of a laugh - in other words not actually a test.

[Andrew Cusack]

Indeed, Unionism has nothing inherently sectarian in it at all. That is rather the fault of the tribalistic culture of the Six Counties.

I am an ardent Unionist, and an even more ardent Roman Catholic.

Here's Trinity College Dublin's rarely updated Young Unionists page:

http://www.csc.tcd.ie/~unionist/

[The Cellar Bar]

[s]The Bigot's Bigot wrote on 00:26, 15th Dec 2003:
What sort of 'constitutional description' did you have in mind? The majority of people in NI want to remain British, simple as that. As an aside, the only time Ireland has been 'united' has been when she has been under British rule. By the way, don't read too much into the whole fake email thing, actually this is just a bit of a laugh - in other words not actually a test.

Probably the old chestnut of "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" that has been abused so much.
Great Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales. It doesn't and never has included the province of Northern Ireland.
Possibly the most ingenious get-around to that that I've been given was when a Unionist explained slowly and carefully, presumably because he reckoned some of us needed it, was that yes there is "Great Britain" under those terms but there is also "Britain" - as in "Made in Britain" - that also exists and that's what is being referred to. He cited the undeniable fact that "no-one talks about being "Great British" but only "British"" and that,therefore, the place itself must exist.
In some ways, to sound totally cynical, I wouldn't have a problem with Northern Ireland becoming British - they could have our place and we could become Scots!!

[The Bigot's Bigot]

The province of NI is ruled by the government of Great Britain (as are Scotland and Wales to a greater or lesser degree) to form the UK. We send MPs to Westminster and so on. The retention of the link with Britain and the notion that we are 'British' is a majority opinion. Why can't people accept that and move on?