Alien vs Predator - will it be a hit or miss?

[Guest]

I will be coming back to check on this post quite abit to see what other people think of this movie - so please don't add any spoilers!

Yeah I think AvP will kick ass - what do you guys think?

[Rectalprobe]

I know it kicks ass - its amazing!!

A film i was looking forward to for ages!!!

Not dissapointed at all

[Prophet Tenebrae]

In Britain (as it already got a "hit" opening in the US). I imagine it'll do ok.

It didn't really flick my switch but it's a way to pass the lonely hours between drinks.

[FURY-161]

I've made my position clear, andI'll make it again:

AvP is sick and wrong and is responsible for the degredation of society, seal clubbing, old ladies getting run over by rabid neds in dirigibles and genocides the world over!

Not really, but as a rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth fan of the respective series's glories, it just plain hurts to see this not only directed by one of the worst directors in Hollywood, but bloody written by him too.

There's not excuse for this hack to have a job, and dispite his purported status as "a fan", he knows jack shit about the cinematic techniques that made the preceeding films so goddam classic.

That and the slumming of Lance Henricksen (in a role thae goes against the continuity of the series), the diabolical acting of the rest of the cast, some truly ludicrous special effects (a bullet-time Facehugger? WHAT!?!), Tunnok's wafer-thin plot and spastic editing.

Trust me, if you hold two sets of great films in any way dear, avoid Alien versus Predator like the fedid, malarial, sphincter-rapingly merdivorous experience it is.

And I telt yas! Didn't I tell yas?!? No-one wud lissen, naebudy wud lissen...

[nas25]

When's it out again? Looks awesome.

[pea]

I can't wait to see it. I'm one of the few people who actually liked Resident Evil (I can't wait for RE: Apocalypse either), so as they're by the same director I hope it's as good, if not better.

[hr]I'm a little pea... I love the sky and the trees.

[Haunted]

Resident Evil was ace, as well as Soldier.
AvP as a film on its own would have been ace, if it werent for the fact that it used two well established legendary franchises.
Plot/story/acting/characters are all terrible. The SFX are quite impressive however, barely using CG at all, which makes for much more awesome action sequences which are the films only point of excellance

[pea]

[s]Haunted wrote on 23:00, 12th Oct 2004:
Resident Evil was ace, as well as Soldier.
AvP as a film on its own would have been ace, if it werent for the fact that it used two well established legendary franchises.
Plot/story/acting/characters are all terrible. The SFX are quite impressive however, barely using CG at all, which makes for much more awesome action sequences which are the films only point of excellance


This is what I like to hear, I'm sick fed up of overuse of CGI in films.

[hr]
I'm a little pea... I love the sky and the trees.

[Tyler Fincher]

Mortal Combat
Event Horizon
Resident Evil
AvP

If the trend continues, I won't hold much hope for it. Although I do like ridiculous effects that make me laugh so I'll be looking forward to the facehugger bit. But I watched the above films and felt no tension, no horror, and nothing I couldn't say 'been done' to. I hope I'm wrong, I really, really do.
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[Guest]

Is AvP also considered 'Alien 5' and/or 'Predator 3'?

[nas25]

Look, it may be terrible, but what else were y'all expecting? I personally would have been disappointed if it had offered any kind of life changing experience. It does EXACTLY what it says on the tin.

[Tyler Fincher]

If it did what it said on the tin it would be called Nytol.
The game did what it said on the tin by conjuring up the atmosphere and real tension, rather than just a fancy lightshow.

[Paranoid]

To be honest when I went to see it I thought the St.Andrews audience was very harsh...

There were a number of parts in the story line where people just burst out laughing very cynically.

This could partly be blamed on the marketing of the film as well which I'll come to in a minute but the 'hilarity' seemed to focus around:

* The Predators real face (come on guys theres been two films, and in both their faces have been featured, get over it!)

* The fact that Predators aren't fundamentally savage, brutal, insensitive killing machines (Thats the ALIENS!!! If anything, Predator 2 showed that they do have a heart under certain situations)

* Predators blow themselves up (Again, its been done before, and surprise surprise its shown here again!)

The acting was lousy, but their not the feature of the film anyway are they? Which brings me to my main point, the film is called Alien Vs Predator, the adverts hype up how big a confrontation this is going to be...and then all we get are 2 little fights that are barely worth mentioning! Although its a difficult story to handle in the first place (although I havent read the comics or books, so cant comment too much on that), to use the humans so much was a bit of a let down. The Marketing of this film advertised blood, guts, and gore, it was promising a huge monstrous battle...so is it really any surprise in the end that the audience I watched AvP with were laughing uncontrollably as the Predator and the human teamed up?!?!

So my conclusion is bad marketing towards 'inexperienced' fans (i.e. those who havent really watched previous movies of one or other of the franchises) and a poor script (yes I agree Anderson should have been shot years ago!)

[Guest]

[s]Paranoid wrote on 12:48, 27th Oct 2004:
To be honest when I went to see it I thought the St.Andrews audience was very harsh...

There were a number of parts in the story line where people just burst out laughing very cynically.



In other cinemas it wouldn't have been so bad. St Andrews breeds snobs in every subject, so people are just desperate to show their friends that this film is beneath them.

It was marketed as a popcorn film which is what it is - pity some people have to act like idiots under the false impression that other people will be impressed!

[oddly familiar]

[s]Paranoid wrote on 12:48, 27th Oct 2004:

So my conclusion is bad marketing towards 'inexperienced' fans (i.e. those who havent really watched previous movies of one or other of the franchises) and a poor script (yes I agree Anderson should have been shot years ago!)



"Theres nothing in sector 14!"
"There is now."

Wow. I'm moved. Academy award winning stuff there.

[Kibet]

Just watched this last night and it did seem to take a lot from the first book in the alien vs predator series "prey". Cut enough stuff out and you can get a half decent film, it may be only about forty minutes long but just needed to take more from those books. The book was much better as it was not on earth and it also told the story not only from the human point of view but from the predator point of view.

Although it is not the same main predator from the first in the series "AvP:prey" by the marking and the history. Also it isn't the same human but there remarkable similarities on both accounts. i read about three or four in the series and i think that if the movie is worthy of a sequel then the Royal jelly angle is the best way.

I wouldn't mind getting back into them as they were decent enough scifi books.

[Prophet Tenebrae]

Kibet: Alien, Predator or AvP are by their very nature trashy sci-fi. It's inescapable.

[5handicapgolfer]

WORST FILM EVER