a question for fat people

[Insight]

Fat does shroud the base of the penis: so the more there is, the less your penis sticks out = so it shrinks.

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[Haunted]

Steroids shrink your balls not your shaft. Something to do with your nuts not producing testosterone, so they shrink.

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[Dave the Explosive Newt]

Quoting the reason for the word witch from 16:36, 2nd May 2006
It's true though. Fat cells do produce oestrogen, which is why very fat guys tend to have man boops... but I have never heard of their penis shrinking. And yes, very thin girls lack oestrogen, which is part of the reason why anorexics do not get their period.

Well, the levels of oestrogen at play aren't massive - the manboob mainly consists of fat; there is no glandular tissue like in the female breast. If you find some willing volunteers you should be able to feel the difference (form an orderly que, ladies) - the female item will be a bit more firm and feel like it has a bit more substance to it.
Real manboobs occur in certain liver disorders which cause oestrogen production to increase to levels comparable to a woman - men develop proper glandular tissue, which is an important clinical finding.

As for penis size, I'm afraid it doesn't fluctuate depending on hormone levels! The penis's size is set in more formative years (i.e. events at birth and subsequently puberty) and continues to grow normally with the rest of the body. Insight is correct about fat around the base though.

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[Dave the Explosive Newt]

Quoting Haunted from 17:30, 2nd May 2006
Steroids shrink your balls not your shaft. Something to do with your nuts not producing testosterone, so they shrink.

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More or less. Constant stimulation from anabolic steroids stops sperm production, and since they're not doing as much the testes shrink.

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[Nymphomanic]

Quoting Insight from 23:52, 1st May 2006
It varies: sometimes I think *not bad*, sometimes I prod the wobbly bits and sigh a little, whilst resolving to diet/start swimming again etc etc

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Insight, you are not fat.

Big X - hell everyone hs features they beat themselves up about or things they don't like about themselve. I guess for fat people that may be one of the things, but it's only a small (no pun meant) thing really.
We'd all like to change things (I'd like to have a prettier face) but as long as you're healthy, radiant, have good sin and are not a total wanker like you seem to be then i don't see why it's an issue.

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[Happy-Go-Lucky]

Another thing that happens to anorexics is that if/when they do put a bit of weight back on, the lack of oestogen makes them put the weight on in a more male-pattern such on the stomach. Even if they had quite a womanly hour-glass shape before, they put on weight around their middle rather than their breasts, bums and thighs. This is rather unfortunate as putting on any weight is often difficult for them to cope with anyway, and putting it on in such unflattering places so they loose their waist makes it even more distressing. Oddly though, there have been studies giving recovering anorexics oestrogen supplements, and they didn't seem to help this phenomenon. However, if they keep the wieght on long enough, eventually their natural oestrogen levels return, and their fat redistributes to the similar shape as before.

[quote]Quoting the reason for the word witch from 16:36, 2nd May 2006
It's true though. Fat cells do produce oestrogen, which is why very fat guys tend to have man boops... but I have never heard of their penis shrinking. And yes, very thin girls lack oestrogen, which is part of the reason why anorexics do not get their period. In fact I have always wondered how people as skinny as Victoria Beckham for instance can naturally conceive children. I would consider it a miracle if she was ovulating...quote]

[Jono]

Quoting munchingfoo from 13:26, 2nd May 2006
It really does depend on what you define as too fat.

There really is a difference between the health risk inducing fat and not being thin/toned.

I would consider myself to be fat using the later description, but since it is a stupid way to look at people and define them I care nothing for it. I decided one day, about three years ago, that I was going to always look at myself in the mirror and be happy - even its just because no other bugger would

I think we are all different shapes and sizes. I do more exercise and eat less food than many of my friends. How many 16 stone guys do you see running to their morning lectures when they are late? - And yet, I still look the way I do.

What does actually sicken me though is overly obese people who just gorge themselves on food - you know the sort who don't even care that their fingers are covered in crisp crumbs stuffing yet more crisps into their expressionless wobbly faces as if it's their last ever meal and they haven't eatten in a week.

There does become a point where the criticism of "fat" people switches from society-wide bullying to the actual fault of those concerned. Some people really need to get some self respect.

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

Well said! when oh when will people get over the obsession that everyone has to look like a magazine pin-up? I don't know all that many people who are genuinely "Fat." most of my mates don't conform to the 'glam-mag Idyll,' but guess what? A lot of them still have girlfriends, and regular sex! same goes for the ladies.

We're not all mister St. Andrews, and I don't think most of us would want to be!




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[Smith]

I don't think i'll ever be fat, I actually lost half a stone since the last time I've been weighed, which worries me quite a bit, considering I have been eating well the whole time.

Some people are definitely more prone to putting on weight than others, there's no doubt about that.

I guess I'm blessed in that department.

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[Gubbins]

I used to be fat, but then I changed my diet and lost four stone. If I can do it, most folk can. As for what I thought? Probably something like "I don't care, so long as I don't have to buy bigger trousers."

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...but then again, that is only my opinion.

[kate]

If you insist on labelling people as "fat", why is it in a derrogotary way? It is one of the worst feelings in the world, feeling like you need something to eat, and not being able to stop youself. It is an eating disorder, just as worrying as anorexia or bulemia, and should be treated as such. Making people feel guilty, stupid, ugly, or lonely is only going to make the disorder worse. It is truly as bad as a drug addiction. I am only 18, I used to be a size 20 at age 13. Not because my parents fed me crap before anyone asks. It's more to do with secret eating. I managed to kick the habbit and get in shape, because people supported me. I am now size 10-12 and weigh just under 10 stone, which I am more than happy with. Everytime I used to read some crap like what's been said on this thread, I would just want to eat again. How about supporting overweight people, rather that ridiculing them and making the problem worse?

[Guest]

Quoting kate from 16:34, 2nd May 2006
How about supporting overweight people?...

I suppose, most of us could use the exercise

[Jess]

looking in the mirror = makes me want to stay away from anyone who might see me....most of the time..especially when I am already stressed...I eat pretty healthily so just have been cursed with the slowest metabolism...It's not fun...

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[maenad]

I think, 'Hmm, what shall I eat next?'.

[MadDog20/20]

Who the fuck cares what fat people think?

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I listen to feminists and all these radical gals - most of them are failures. They've blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men - that's their problem. ~Jerry Falwell

[munchingfoo]

fat people's mums

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

[Anon.]

Quoting kate from 16:34, 2nd May 2006
If you insist on labelling people as "fat", why is it in a derrogotary way? It is one of the worst feelings in the world, feeling like you need something to eat, and not being able to stop youself. It is an eating disorder, just as worrying as anorexia or bulemia, and should be treated as such. Making people feel guilty, stupid, ugly, or lonely is only going to make the disorder worse. It is truly as bad as a drug addiction.

People are called "fat" in a derogatory way because it is not a good thing to be. Why is it that people who are addicted to smoking or drinking are berated for wasting replacement livers and the resources of the health services generally, and drug addicts like Kate Moss are pilloried in the national press, yet people addicted to eating should be pampered and cuddled and told that it's all right? Double standards I think.

[Webbie]

People think smokers are bastards for ruining their health. Fat people are aswell, maybe not to such an extent, but they are.

Thing is, smokers don't really expect any sympathy and now the ban's in the passive smoking argument is a bit weaker.

Are cigarettes more addictive than eating yourself silly? Can we chastise a smoker who got hooked at a young age, while not critising some chuff who couldnt resist food literally streaming in grease (like Empire or something) or a lardy who couldn't resist all the pies?

Though it is true some are more prone to rotundness than others and conditions and whatnot do exist it is also true that people are getting fatter every year with more kids larding it up, whilst eating hideous ready meals (don't people know whats in them? Ugh, it makes me reach just to think!

Television, junk food, computers in general (for work and play) are making people fatter. Yet people seem to think they have a condition when all they do is a pathetic amount of excercise (an hour of aerobics a fortnight is not enough).

I used to be a bit chubby when i was a kid, but I started excercising and cut out junk food and started eating healthier food.

This should be top of the governments agenda not the wars on terror and drugs respectively, obesity is a far greater risk to the nation. And the only person who seems to want to anything about this is the man, the legend Jaime Oliver, who many hate for no apparent reason.

If you are fat and want to be thin, this is what you do

1. Don't eat junk food (that includes ready meals of nearly all kinds - even the supposedly healthy living ones have all sorts of shit in them)
2. Make your food from scratch out of real ingredients.
3. Excercise everyday (for good while, not just ten minutes, you have to be shattered so you can't walk or talk afterwards)
4. Don't forget your five portions of fruit and veg a day!

Forget miracle diets, low gi eating plans, forget lose weight fast quickfixes (that don't work). Don't expect a miracle overnight and do expect a bit of hard work.

However, after a while, you'll feel great! Mentally and phyiscially.

Right, i'm going to stop looking at the sinner, go outside and enjoy the wonders and beauty of life and hopefully have some fun along the way, lest I gaze anymore at these pointless pixellated opinions any longer.

Life's too short!

[flarewearer]

Can you get passive obesity?

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[dot]

people addicted to eating should be pampered and cuddled and told that it's all right?

We are not addicted to eating, well I am not, I in fact eat less than my friends, and exercise, but unfortunately I still don't lose the weight. In future, dont judge us for being fat; it hurts a lot, and this thread proves how shallow and thoughtless some people are.

[angel_kohaku]

I'd rather be fat than be confused...

I know I'm not model thin, but I'm by no means obese. Just a little chubby. And I intend to eat like a machine so that one day some amazing rock band will write a song about me. Nobody writes songs about skinny chicks. Being skinny is not cool. Curves are the way forward.

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