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Privacy Threat - Facebook

Postby username on Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:55 pm

I don't think lots of the users of that facebook have read the privacy policy so I thought of giving you a little taste...

"Facebook also collects information about you from other sources, such as newspapers and instant messaging services. This information is gathered regardless of your use of the Web Site."

"We may share your information with third parties, including responsible companies with which we have a relationship. For example:
• We may provide information to service providers to help us bring you the services we offer. Specifically, we may use third parties to facilitate our business, such as to send email solicitations. In connection with these offerings and business operations, our service providers may have access to your personal information for use in connection with these business activities.
• We may be required to disclose customer information pursuant to lawful requests, such as subpoenas or court orders, or in compliance with applicable laws. Additionally, we may share account or other information when we believe it is necessary to comply with law or to protect our interests or property. This may include sharing information with other companies, lawyers, agents or government agencies.
• If the ownership of all or substantially all of the Facebook business were to change, your user information would likely be transferred to the new owner.
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What do you now think of facebook...
Maybe you should start thinking of moving to a better service. Not to mention that most parts of the code are actually stolen (check online news - facebook lawsuit etc - it's been a year now).
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Postby Steveo on Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:04 am

I just don't care.

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Not my ethics.
Get off my internet.
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Postby Steveo on Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:04 am

I just don't care.

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Not my ethics.
Get off my internet.
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Postby Kegrad on Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:07 am

So fairly much the same as any other website where you'd enter your personal information?
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Postby Duggeh on Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:28 am

myspace, msn, yahoo profiles, etc. the policies are all similar.

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Postby Haunted on Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:05 am

sure is a sick sad world
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Postby flarewearer on Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:19 am

The Sinner is the same, expect a visit from the Kingdom of Fife's finest should you commit some petty offence on these here boards

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Postby Admin on Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:31 am

The Sinner is NOT the same.

I have never passed any Sinner user's personal details on to anyone, and unless I am required to do so by the Police, I never will.
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Postby flarewearer on Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:40 am

Come come admin, i was merely being facetious

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Postby DrAlex on Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:35 am

What dear 'username' chose to leave out was this bit:

"If you do not want to receive promotional email from Facebook and/or do not want us to share your information with third parties for marketing purposes, please submit a request by clicking here. We will make every effort to implement any choice you make as soon as possible."

This is exactly the same as 90% of the websites out there where you enter personal details. Ever read "tick this box if you do not wish to recieve..."

I'd tell you to stop slinging mud, but this is the sinner.

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Postby Admin on Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:27 pm

I thought you might have been, but as you're probably aware, most of the people who read The Sinner can't recognise facetiousness, sarcasm or humour, so I thought I'd set the record straight.
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Postby Guest on Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:21 pm

Sounds like a standard policy, although it's interesting that in the FAQs about privacy they say, 'Facebook respects your privacy. We don't distribute your user information to third parties'. You then follow the link to the privacy policy, which says, 'We may share your information with third parties, including responsible companies with which we have a relationship'.
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Postby username on Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:22 pm

exactly the anonymous above me is right about that.
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Postby username on Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:41 pm

Quoting DrAlex from 11:35, 1st Dec 2005
What dear 'username' chose to leave out was this bit:

"If you do not want to receive promotional email from Facebook and/or do not want us to share your information with third parties for marketing purposes, please submit a request by clicking here. We will make every effort to implement any choice you make as soon as possible."

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I did read that. Try clicking and it will say "Thanks. Your request has been recorded." now you think they will respect your choice ? and how many users you think have seen that ? It's hidden for good reason.

Other services do not have such policies, others do. Try finding a better service. After all facebook is not that good, it's too poor.

"the Facebook recently received $13 million in funds from Accel Partners, a major information technology venture capital firm in Palo Alto, Calif." that was published iun August and not in just website or one newspaper. Do you think they gave them that much just for little or simple ads ? IT's the information they are buying. People write about their favorite movies,music,tv shows, their political views(!) this is valuable information and it's very dangerous if it is collected by private companies especially when they paid so much money. It was not for fun they are expecting to make much more than that just by using your information.
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Postby Midget on Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:06 pm

To be fair most people are taking the piss on facebook so I laugh at any company who tries to use it to collect any meaningful data. Remember which generation facebook mainly comprises, us, the can't-give-a-fuck-life-is-all-one-big-joke generation. Who gives a fuck.

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Postby DrAlex on Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:42 pm

Quoting username from 14:41, 1st Dec 2005
I did read that. Try clicking and it will say "Thanks. Your request has been recorded." now you think they will respect your choice ?

I guess I can believe them as much as I believe any other company who asks me if I want my data passed...
After all facebook is not that good, it's too poor.


Is this what it's all about for you? That you don't like facebook? Just say so then, and don't start preaching fire and brimstone because there's something in the T&Cs you don't care for. "OH GNOES! A site where I voluntarily gave my data is holding on to my data! I entered a contract without reading it! I need out!!1one"

How does this really effect my day to day live? Hands up if you've been inundated with spam from facebook related companies...

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Postby username on Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:47 pm

Quoting DrAlex from 16:42, 1st Dec 2005
Quoting username from 14:41, 1st Dec 2005
I did read that. Try clicking and it will say "Thanks. Your request has been recorded." now you think they will respect your choice ?

I guess I can believe them as much as I believe any other company who asks me if I want my data passed...
After all facebook is not that good, it's too poor.


Is this what it's all about for you? That you don't like facebook? Just say so then, and don't start preaching fire and brimstone because there's something in the T&Cs you don't care for. "OH GNOES! A site where I voluntarily gave my data is holding on to my data! I entered a contract without reading it! I need out!!1one"

How does this really effect my day to day live? Hands up if you've been inundated with spam from facebook related companies...

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It's not about me. I am using more sophisticated online services but that would never be a reason to suggest that you do not use facebook. However $13 million is not a small amount of money and should make you start thinking about the service you are using and why so much money was given to such a website from Accel Partners.
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Postby The Dude on Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:58 pm

Quoting username from 17:47, 1st Dec 2005
Quoting DrAlex from 16:42, 1st Dec 2005
Quoting username from 14:41, 1st Dec 2005
I did read that. Try clicking and it will say "Thanks. Your request has been recorded." now you think they will respect your choice ?

I guess I can believe them as much as I believe any other company who asks me if I want my data passed...
After all facebook is not that good, it's too poor.


Is this what it's all about for you? That you don't like facebook? Just say so then, and don't start preaching fire and brimstone because there's something in the T&Cs you don't care for. "OH GNOES! A site where I voluntarily gave my data is holding on to my data! I entered a contract without reading it! I need out!!1one"

How does this really effect my day to day live? Hands up if you've been inundated with spam from facebook related companies...

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It's not about me. I am using more sophisticated online services but that would never be a reason to suggest that you do not use facebook. However $13 million is not a small amount of money and should make you start thinking about the service you are using and why so much money was given to such a website from Accel Partners.


Well probably because marketers always want to know what makes people tick and the age group that predominantly uses facebook has some of the highest discretionary spending of any other group. So what if they want to see what people are interested in? When they see how popular "Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want To Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too" group is doing it will let them know where they can market movies. I am all for raging against the machine but there are much better things to be worried about than getting a new two disk special addition of Zoolander.
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Postby Guest on Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:40 pm

It should also be noted that Facebook flagrantly flounts the laws regarding the transfer of personal data from the uk to the USA/Canada.

Nobody else spotted that?
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Postby Yemminie on Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:36 pm

Meh, everyone knows there's no real privacy any more. If you join a supermarket savings club, they note what you purchase with the card. Similarly, what you purchase on credit gets noted. With everything being so heavily based on technology now, just about anything a person does can be tracked. As for Facebook, personally, I'm not bothered. I haven't received any spam as a result of joining it, and I've been on there a year. If they want to tell marketing companies oh hey, we've got a member, her name is Sarah, she's 22, comes from Georgia, and likes these books and this music, etc, go right ahead. I'd tell any of that to a stranger on the street. As long as they don't start spamming me with ads, I don't really care what they do with my info. But that's just me, and perhaps I should care more than I do.
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