NEDS!

[Humphrey]

Uh.. All I was trying to do with this thread was to entertain people during revision week, it wasn't a form of social commentary and a lot of the snobbery is tongue in cheek. I think however, that some of the previous posts aptly demonstrate that it is vastly important not to take life too seriously otherwise you turn into a boring wanker.

[badly over drawn boy]

I love neds, thiers nothing better than feeling bad about yourself only to catch a ned in full swing and thinking, at least im not as bad as that fucking twat


Cmon the burberry massive

[The Cellar Bar]

[s]Manic23 wrote on 22:25, 6th Jun 2004:
[s]The Cellar Bar wrote on 21:41, 3rd Jun 2004:[i]

But thanks for the grammatical corrections - I stand in awe of someone so obviously talented. It wasn't actually a choice I was offering - one rather than the other - but a hope that those minds would be broader than be so aware etc etc. But thanks for re-interpreting what I actually said.


You have to be one of the most pretentious, arrogant, egotistical wankers I have ever come across on this site, and there are many to choose from(normally I hate resorting to petty insults, but your staggering display of self righteousness and supposed intellectual superiority has actually left me blinded by rage)

And my reference to wearing trakkie bottoms was a reply to your previous whinge about people here judging others by what they wear and the way they talk, and how invalid a point it is here, you stupid twat.

read the post properly in the first place-that normally helps you make a valid argument instead of spurting out idiotic PC shite
[/i]

you may well be blinded but I suspect it's more to do with personal habits than anything you've read up here.

You going to the trouble of pointing out that you wear "trakkie bottoms" - as if it mattered - is just proof of how important you seem to think what you wear is and how it defines you. If it didn't matter why mention it in the first place? And if someone is arrogant enough to correct my grammar, then the least they can do is try and avoid making 3 grammatical mistakes in the space of 12 words.

As for the rest of it, in terms of arrogance and ignorance, you sure as hell rank way up there yourself by the looks of it. This has nothing to do with PC or anything similar. This University has expanded from 3,000 to 7,000 in the space of 6 years or so. If this thread and the one on Mrs Ross are anything to go by, the views of some who might soon be entitled to call themselves St. Andrews graduates, is something to be concerned about. As is the fact that someone sees the need to seek out the sites for some sort of validation.

You'd think that someone with an IQ of roughly 145 plus would have better things to do than belittle others in order to raise themselves in their own eyes. Apparently not.

[Prophet Tenebrae]

And pointing out grammatical errors and insulting them - repeatedly is what... esteem building?

[hr]Ah, I hate how nothing changes. Such a peaceful Earth should just collapse...

[Humphrey]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, people defending Neds!, now I really have seen everything. C’mon lighten up a little bit, the internet isn’t really for this kind of serious intellectual discussion, the internet is for three things 1) procrastination 2) Insulting people you are never likely to meet and thus cannot kick the crap out of you and thirdly and most importantly PORN!!. As I say most of the snobbery was tongue in cheek and I wasn’t really trying to pass judgement. I tried to buy a bottle of Buckfast the other day but nowhere seems to sell it. I appreciate those of you who are trying to stick up for the underdog, however its mighty hard to feel sympathetic towards him when he beating the shit out of your mates, throwing bricks through your windows or shouting unintelligible insults, surely its ok to have a laugh at their expense.

[Manic23]

[s]The Cellar Bar wrote on 07:26, 3rd Jun 2004:
nothing PC squadish about it whatsoever.

Just a certain amount of disbelief that on a University website you see the biggest response to something that looks to demean others and, by implication, set some above a chosen group. And all on how they dress and talk.




I'm only going to say this one more time, and please, for the love of God PLEASE read it properly. When I mentioned wearing trakkie fucking bottoms, it was merely to highlight that this does not make me, or anyone else for that matter a NED, as you have assumed above. I am not a NED and a person is not a NED for the simple reason that we not engage in antisocial behaviour, and it has nothing to do with what we wear, as you have assumed above.

Now, please either

A)Go away(if you have such a problem with our snobby elitist arrogance, don't look at the thread and get all upset up there on your pedestal) as you seem to be the only one here with a problem,

or

B) Join us! You know what they say, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Take a wee look at some of the sites that Humphrey has found, and then discover the futility of trying to defend some of the most self serving wretches that society has to offer. People who enjoy petty vandalism, getting pished and fightin' every night of the week, and in general indulging in social delinquency

P.S.
[b][s]
you may well be blinded but I suspect it's more to do with personal habits than anything you've read up here.

What?
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IMAGE:www.lambhillboyz1.2004.freewebspace.com/images/tam001.jpg

best ned EVER

[Humphrey]

Yeah, before you condemn me as a snobbish tosser I suggest you read what the Chinatoon posse got up to this weekend

'awryt weekend for the lads this weekend , everycunt was mashed , gid laugh , oan friday nyt we aww got mashed n some of us went up me retail park , me (Radley) scotty billy finni euan glennon n wee roy , we started tlkin ti these cunts wi there burds n scotty was mashed out his heed so he started on them lol nuhin happend tho coz it was billys pals , so they jamp in the limo and we abused them 10 mins later billy n that saww sum burds so we walked er ti thum a was wantin ti breeze bk doon the park , so they aww start tlkin ti thum and a motor drives up and billy thew a brick and it when threw the sun roof lol and aww the folk in the car were aww shittin thereselfs but 1 then got out the car , then about 6 cars came lol scotty got floored, he only had a wee black eye but its all good , when aww the cars came we went doon the park ti get the rest of the troops , but only kev lister and a few other folk came up , but they cunts had fucked off , so we just went doon the perk , on ower way bk doon ti the park a big riot fan and a dug fan pulled up and lifted billy doon the park there wiz paulie kev gazer belly wee n me scotty billy n euan n that n a few burds n wee pony n that , we just sat doon the park for a wee while they passed some scoobiies about n got staint n finnished there wine , later on me n scotty went up ti the kebab shop , on ower way up , scotty was that gassed every 1 and everyhin we went passed the fucker started on them he was wantin ti scrap , so we walked along ti the shop and wonce we got in there was hunners of niggers n 2 casuals n scotty sits doon wi a gid smile n that it was aww quite n aww i heard was , " CHINATOON NAZI TEAM, CHINA NAZI TEAM " , I tot the niggers were goin ti doo us in like, 2 seconds later he started singin chelsea head hunters and we started gettin daggers of everycunt in the shop , on ower way bk doon the park there was a crew of moshers and me n scotty started jippin the fannys and i said scotty go n i turned roun d and scotty was half way across the road fuckin half way threw the air and hooked this big mad cunt wi an afro n that lol it was funny as fuck lol so we got ower scran n fucked off bk doon the perk'

How, I ask myself, could I have been so unenlightened to take the piss out of such a bunch of 'lovable rogues', who are after all victims of an unfair society.

[Campbell]

i can't really add anything here that manic or humphrey hasn't already said much more eloquently, but never mind i'll try anyway


the whole point that people seem to miss with neds is that, by definition, they are little bastards. that's what a ned is. a ned isn't simply any underprivileged child, or any child from a working class background. the term just refers to all the little wankers who commit acts of vandalism, violence and general destruction under that loveable umbrella of ignorance and intolerance.

to say not to judge neds makes no sense, because in calling them a ned you are using a term that means you have already judged them to be the little wankers that they are.

if that makes any sense whatsoever

[Cain]

[s]Manic23 wrote on 12:43, 7th Jun 2004:
[s]The Cellar Bar wrote on 07:26, 3rd Jun 2004:[i]
you may well be blinded but I suspect it's more to do with personal habits than anything you've read up here.

What?
[/i]

he was calling you a wanker

[The Cellar Bar]

[s]Cain wrote on 14:39, 7th Jun 2004:
[s]Manic23 wrote on 12:43, 7th Jun 2004:[i]
[s]The Cellar Bar wrote on 07:26, 3rd Jun 2004:[i]
you may well be blinded but I suspect it's more to do with personal habits than anything you've read up here.

What?
[/i]

he was calling you a wanker
[/i]


nahhh - shurely not!!! - Jeez who'da thunk it.

And in return, in a different sort of way -
I was calling him a wanker too.

[cant be arsed]

[s]Manic23 wrote on 22:25, 6th Jun 2004:
[s]The Cellar Bar wrote on 21:41, 3rd Jun 2004:[i]

But thanks for the grammatical corrections - I stand in awe of someone so obviously talented. It wasn't actually a choice I was offering - one rather than the other - but a hope that those minds would be broader than be so aware etc etc. But thanks for re-interpreting what I actually said.


You have to be one of the most pretentious, arrogant, egotistical wankers I have ever come across on this site, and there are many to choose from(normally I hate resorting to petty insults, but your staggering display of self righteousness and supposed intellectual superiority has actually left me blinded by rage)

And my reference to wearing trakkie bottoms was a reply to your previous whinge about people here judging others by what they wear and the way they talk, and how invalid a point it is here, you stupid twat.

read the post properly in the first place-that normally helps you make a valid argument instead of spurting out idiotic PC shite
[/i]

Why not read your post and see how close to an offensive ned you are? Very. Oh I'm not judging you on what you sound like (a ned) but how you're acting on a website - that's a much better indication you see. You should become an avid reader of those sites maybe. Oh you already are? Good work.

Oh and I wouln't recommend going into a certain pub in a hurry, you might find yourself not very welcome by the punters at least. The Cellar Bar is responsible for some of the most interesting and mature (shock horror) posts I have seen on this site. He is one of the few people on here where I have actually gained knowledge from reading his posts. You on the other hand, insult people, antagonise people, and post absolutely disgusting pictures which you should have been banned for.

Your posts are the very pondlife of this board. Why do you feel the need to come across in such a negative way? Are you so incapable of seeing someone else's point of view or even *gasp* respecting it without resorting to personal insults? Obviously not.

And I agree with the Cellar Bar in his posts on this page with reference to this thread and another. Unfortunatley I fear he is just too much of an adult for this place nowadays.

I used to joke that people were being put off this site by users behaviour towards others but now it's true. I asked a couple of mates what they thought of the new colour scheme. They didn't know, haven't looked at the site since January. I couldn't find one single person who used it and they were all dedicated users. The sad thing is that over summer more prospective students will be looking at this site and seeing posts by the like of you. I'm sure they'l feel much better seeing what close and narrow minded verbally abusive people reside here.

I don't care if they let people in to this uni who look or sound like neds, but you'd think they'd at least just let in people who actually had a nice personality, no chip on their shoulder and a desire to learn from those MUCH more experienced and wise than they can possibly ever hope to be. I don't know the Cellar Bar, haven't even been in the pub(!). But I hope I never have to come into contact with you, you really are repulsive. On a website anyway which is apparently a good indication of what a person is really like.

[amac]

He might be having an argument on here but he isn't about to go round and smash your windows, steal your stereo and break a mirror off your car. There's nothing wrong with a good argument, and they can be the most interesting things on here. I'd rather argue with someone over something than post something like 'i agree totally' and leave it at that.

[s]Unregisted User cant be arsed wrote on 00:15, 7th Jun 2004:Why do you feel the need to come across in such a negative way? Are you so incapable of seeing someone else's point of view or even *gasp* respecting it without resorting to personal insults? Obviously not.

Eh, what?! The Cellar Bar, that 'mature' and oh so wise poster called Manic a wanker, but you seem to totally ignore that.

You seem to have no clue what is being discussed from everything else you say. This isn't about people who LOOK or SOUND like NED's, its about people who ACT like NED's. None of us (including the self-righteous ones) would like these sorts of people. They couldn't care less about you or your property.

People should stop getting up on their high horse and calm down. We're not hurting anyone looking at these sites, and there's nothing wrong with laughing at them. Its not that we're snobby, only that we know what they are like. Just look at Chewin' the fat. Was that watched by elitist pricks? No, because everybody found it funny laughing at the behaviour of NED's.

Also, you can't be arsed to register but you can be arsed to write six paragraphs of pure shite?!

[hr]Look left! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I said left you retard

[Humphrey]

IMAGE:www.hometown.aol.co.uk/tomy1987/images/pyb.jpg

[alloa fan]

I would have to agree with Manic and amac. I reserve the right to laugh at arseholes

[hr]C'mon the wasps

[Humphrey]

Image:www.widfarmyt.freewebspace.com/images/ewan_112.jpg

Yay, finally I've figured out how to post pictures. Unregistered user, since you seem to be such an outstanding judge of character (sarcasm fully intended), I was wondering what you make of this little chap. I'm sure people visiting this board are most impressed by such 'mature' posts, actually they probably would be more likely to be asking themselves what a middle aged person is doing posting on a university chat board. Perhaps the real reason less people are posting on the sinner is because most of the threads seem to be devoted to topics such as 'What is your favourite vowel' and ‘what’s the best humming noise’. I also resent this idea that we have something to learn from the older generation, take my dad for example (sorry pa), he does have wisdom to impart but he also talks a hell of a lot of shit as well, dont even get me started on my grandma.

[amac]

[s]alloa fan wrote on 16:00, 7th Jun 2004:I reserve the right to laugh at arseholes

Well Said!

Humphrey, can you post the link to that picture you deleted? It was large, but it good (and illustrated the point well)!

Also, what is it you do with the images? I've tried a couple of times and it just displays the link and a box :S

[hr]Look left! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I said left you retard

[Campbell]

[s]Unregisted User cant be arsed wrote on 00:15, 7th Jun 2004:
Why not read your post and see how close to an offensive ned you are? Very. Oh I'm not judging you on what you sound like (a ned) but how you're acting on a website - that's a much better indication you see. You should become an avid reader of those sites maybe. Oh you already are? Good work.


you are a cretin. a ned, for the love of god, is - as amac said - not just someone we happen to judge to be a vandal or whatever by the way they look or sound, but by what they DO. how else would you have us judge people (i can already hear something thinking 'oh, he said 'judge', that's baaaad'). a ned would not get into st andrews, you complete imbecile, because if they did they would be trying to do something productive with their life and would immediately cease to be a ned.

post absolutely disgusting pictures which you should have been banned for.

when was this?


I don't care if they let people in to this uni who look or sound like neds, but you'd think they'd at least just let in people who actually had a nice personality, no chip on their shoulder and a desire to learn from those MUCH more experienced and wise than they can possibly ever hope to be. I don't know the Cellar Bar, haven't even been in the pub(!). But I hope I never have to come into contact with you, you really are repulsive.


hmmm, hypocrisy, anyone? i actually laughed out loud when i read that.

you seem to be trying to come across as a neutral, logical person but for some reason have decided to do so by writing one of the most ridiculously opinionated, abusive rants i have ever seen. please, just read the posts that are slightly contradictory to your view. we are all nice people, that's why we don't like neds (neds, mind, not the entire, innocent, oppressed proletariat as you seem to believe, but the wanky few) becuase they exist to abuse other people. if they didn't, they wouldn't be neds. it's like saying 'well you can't judge the SS during the second world war because most germans are good people'. if they weren't wankers, they wouldn't be neds

can't even believe i rose to this bait

[Humphrey]

IMAGE:www.freewebs.com/dabestcrewpics2004/one.jpg

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you... (drumroll) The oppressed masses!, oh how sorry I am to have wronged them.

The link for the last picture was http://www.widfarmyt.freewebspace.com

And as for posting pictures, it tells you how to do it on this site somewhere, find the web reference for the picture and substitute the 'http://' bit with ' IMAGE :'

[Manic23]

[s]Unregisted User cant be arsed wrote on 00:15, 7th Jun 2004:Why not read your post and see how close to an offensive ned you are?

Oh the irony! Despite not knowing who I am, you have labelled me as

1. Repulsive
2. Pondlife
3. Narrow minded etc.

It's a good job I have thick skin, or I might actually have been offended by your rant.


Oh and I wouln't recommend going into a certain pub in a hurry, you might find yourself not very welcome by the punters at least.

Eh? is this some sort of coded threat? I'm not entirely clear, please clarify how "the punters" will (A) identify me and (B) what exaclty they'll do to me. You might want to clear this up, otherwise most others will assume you're talking out of your arsehole.

You on the other hand, insult people, antagonise people, and post absolutely disgusting pictures which you should have been banned for.

True I have had a few "heated" dicussions with other sinners, but where exactly have I personally antagonised someone for the sake of it? Any arguments or criticisms I have levelled at others have been due to differences in opinion or in contribution to an opinionated discussion e.g. the abortion thread. If it is the pictures that I posted on that thread you are refering to, then perhaps you failed to notice that I removed them shortly afterwards as I realised they were quite upsetting, and it was perhaps not the wisest decision to post them. Nevertheless, I used them in point of an argument, and not to deliberately fuck anyone off.


Your posts are the very pondlife of this board.

I want you to find me some recent threads that I have posted on that are unnecessarily malicious and that I haven't either apologised for, or at least made peace with whoever it was that I was leveling abuse at. I believe I've posted on about 165 threads, so you have plenty to search for. Oh, and don't bother bringing up the Agnus Dei thread- he was an Arsehole and doesn't count.



Why do you feel the need to come across in such a negative way? Are you so incapable of seeing someone else's point of view or even *gasp* respecting it without resorting to personal insults?

Oh I'm perfectly capable of seeing and respecting someone elses opinion, I just don't have time for people who deliberately argue a point just to stand out from the crowd and make a half arsed attempt at being controversial, a manner which I believed Cellar Bar to be behaving in. NEDS are wee bastards, not the working class, not the fans of Fred Perry and Henri Lloyd attire, NEDS. That is the simple point that myself and a few others were making. Mr. Cellar Bar and yourself saw us as attempting to make a social commentary on those we deemed beneath them. YOU'RE WRONG, we were not doing so.


I used to joke that people were being put off this site by users behaviour towards others but now it's true. I asked a couple of mates what they thought of the new colour scheme. They didn't know, haven't looked at the site since January.

Can't blame me for that love- I registered at the very start of February.


The sad thing is that over summer more prospective students will be looking at this site and seeing posts by the like of you. I'm sure they'l feel much better seeing what close and narrow minded verbally abusive people reside here.

I doubt very much prospective students are going to be influenced by the opinions of some people on a website chat forum. But if any of you are, don't worry! just email me and I'll take you to the union for a nice wee pint and a bag of pork scratchings, just to show you how friendly I am.

I don't care if they let people in to this uni who look or sound like neds, but you'd think they'd at least just let in people who actually had a nice personality, no chip on their shoulder and a desire to learn from those MUCH more experienced and wise than they can possibly ever hope to be.

The above offer is extended to you love-any pub you want, The Cellar included. I bet you need a drink after that long post to calm your shattered nerves. We can talk of poetry, the autumn leaves, and days gone by. Doesn't that sound nice? Just to show you what a top bloke I really am.

I don't know the Cellar Bar, haven't even been in the pub(!).

Very clever, I see what you've done there, nice

But I hope I never have to come into contact with you, you really are repulsive. On a website anyway which is apparently a good indication of what a person is really like.


read the last part back to yourself, and just see how illogical it is. A website being a good indication of what a person is like? I hope you're being ironic or sarcastic.

P.S. As I believe I know who you are (we've had a quarrel on the previously mentioned thread haven't we?) you could at least have the courage/decency to post under your registered name, and not hide behind cowardly anonymity.
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best ned EVER

[Manic23]

[s]The Cellar Bar wrote on 14:47, 7th Jun 2004:
[s]Cain wrote on 14:39, 7th Jun 2004:[i]
[s]Manic23 wrote on 12:43, 7th Jun 2004:[i]
[s]The Cellar Bar wrote on 07:26, 3rd Jun 2004:[i]
you may well be blinded but I suspect it's more to do with personal habits than anything you've read up here.

What?
[/i]

he was calling you a wanker
[/i]


nahhh - shurely not!!! - Jeez who'da thunk it.

And in return, in a different sort of way -
I was calling him a wanker too.
[/i]

thanks for clearing that up, I suspected that's what you were getting at but couldn't be quite sure.

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IMAGE:www.lambhillboyz1.2004.freewebspace.com/images/tam001.jpg

best ned EVER