Kazaa

[Steveo]

Kazaa Media Desktop software is not supported or allowed on the University Residence Network. The peer-to-peer technology and sharing compatibilities employed by this program are deemed to be both insecure and in breach of the terms and conditions of ResNet as well as increasing the spread of viruses from computer to computer (see extract below). Users should not make such a service available by means of sharing folders on their computers for any other user to access. You are strongly advised to remove Kazaa from your computer altogether.

Extract taken from the Kazaa.com
'Most files that are accessible using Kazaa Media Desktop originate from other users. This means that there will always be the risk of irresponsible users introducing viruses.
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[Prophet Tenebrae]

Question - hypothetically then what if you didn't sign or otherwise assent to a resnet contract.

[Atangaladhion]

[s]dunqn wrote on 16:12, 13th Oct 2004:
Oh no! Atargh-thingy is here! Did will point you to this place?


No. I have known of it for some time.

[Tyler Fincher]

I have a sneaky suspicion that kazaa's availability is determined by your location. As if for some reason, some routers are stricter than others, which I think that's bloomin' appalling. If I can't get KaZaA, no one should!

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[Sided Pizza]

You are advised not to set up file-sharing with other network users in the interest overall network performance and your own security.

This is also on the resnet site. Does this mean that you can fileshare as long as it is using a client other than kazaa?

[md25]

Network news transfer protocol for life XD

[Squirrel]

"There is also nothing illegal about downloading music off the internet for free, for your own use."

Strictly speaking, no. However, I'm assuming you mean "There is nothing illegal about downloading music which the artists haven't released as free to download", which is just straight out wrong.

You can go read the appropriate law at:

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Uk ... htm#mdiv16

Specifically:

"The owner of the copyright in a work has, in accordance with the following provisions of this Chapter, the exclusive right to do the following acts in the United Kingdom—

to copy the work (see section 17)"

"Copyright in a work is infringed by a person who without the licence of the copyright owner does, or authorises another to do, any of the acts restricted by the copyright."

Marvel at the lack of "It's okay if it's only for yourself" or "It's okay if you delete it within 24 hours" clauses. Both are nothing more than rumours...

[Prophet Tenebrae]

Also marvel at the enforcement is 9/10ths of the law.

[Atangaladhion]

" 29.—(1) Fair dealing with a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work for the purposes of research or PRIVATE STUDY does not infringe any copyright in the work or, in the case of a published edition, in the typographical arrangement."

Can anyone say loophole? Define Private Study.

[md25]

[s]Atangaladhion wrote on 09:08, 14th Oct 2004:
Can anyone say loophole? Define Private Study.

First of all, define "Fair Dealing". I know it's pessimistic of me but I doubt the judges of the land will interpret "downloading stuff from Kazaa" as "Fair Dealing".

[mottthehoople]

Kazaa is just a breeding ground for viruses. Kazaa can't even run without a virus.


My advice.

Fopp in Dundee.


Give new bands a chance

[Cain]

[s]mottthehoople wrote on 12:18, 14th Oct 2004:
My advice.

Fopp in Dundee.

does dundee fopp have a vending machine? those things are cool.


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[Guest]

[s]Steveo wrote on 00:05, 13th Oct 2004:
[s]Mohawk wrote on 22:46, 12th Oct 2004:[i]
i know some of ITS do,


And then try to be high and mighty...

He knows who he is.
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Wow, didn't know you worked for ITS. Still with their limited knowledge they must be accepting anyone who wants the job.

[hm]

[s]Steveo wrote on 14:22, 13th Oct 2004:
[s]Atangaladhion wrote on 12:31, 13th Oct 2004:[i]
There is also nothing illegal about downloading music off the internet for free, for your own use.


It is specifically stated in your ResNet contract that Kazaa is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
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So? As the guy says it is still not "illegal". Just "unacceptable" and not to be tolerated. All completely different words.

I would have thought though that ITS would not be so inconsistent. The reason p2p is not allowed is because janet says resnet is only for academic use.

Thus they should crack down as hard on those who game over the network and those who look at non-academic sites such as this on the network.

All or nothing would be better than picking on specific applications.

Besides everyone know kazaa is no longer the way.

[Ethan With]

The first sensible thing that Mott has said.

[amac]

[s]Ethan With wrote on 12:54, 14th Oct 2004:
The first sensible thing that Mott has said.

True.

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[Atangaladhion]

[s]md25 wrote on 11:18, 14th Oct 2004:
[s]Atangaladhion wrote on 09:08, 14th Oct 2004:[i]
Can anyone say loophole? Define Private Study.

First of all, define "Fair Dealing". I know it's pessimistic of me but I doubt the judges of the land will interpret "downloading stuff from Kazaa" as "Fair Dealing".
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If you look at any of the court cases about this, you'll see that no-one is being sued for downloading music from the internet, but for distributing music using the internet. Uploading (i.e. sharing) music online is illegal; downloading it is not.

[Sided Pizza]

[s]Atangaladhion wrote on 13:37, 14th Oct 2004:

First of all, define "Fair Dealing". I know it's pessimistic of me but I doubt the judges of the land will interpret "downloading stuff from Kazaa" as "Fair Dealing".
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If you look at any of the court cases about this, you'll see that no-one is being sued for downloading music from the internet, but for distributing music using the internet. Uploading (i.e. sharing) music online is illegal; downloading it is not.
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Well said

[md25]

[s]Atangaladhion wrote on 13:37, 14th Oct 2004:
If you look at any of the court cases about this, you'll see that no-one is being sued for downloading music from the internet, but for distributing music using the internet. Uploading (i.e. sharing) music online is illegal; downloading it is not.

You're right, all the downloader prosecutions seems to be in America while the BPI prefer going after the uploaders. For now, at least...

[Zombie Sheep]

[s]Unregisted User hm wrote on 15:01, 13th Oct 2004:
Besides everyone know kazaa is no longer the way.


So what is the way forward then?

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