The next Pope

[Miz Manda]

What do people think of Carinal Arinze of Nigeria? What are the odds on him?

Also, what about our own Cardinal O'Brien?

[exnihilo]

I think Claudio Hummes of Sao Paulo has a strong chance, which is why I stuck a fiver on him.

As for name, I would assume John Paul III, I think anything else would be taken as indicating a break from John Paul II's strance. That said, in a way I hope it is something like Boniface or Innocent, because there would soon then be hundreds of people called that in Glasgow.

[RJ Covino]

[s]Miz Manda wrote on 19:57, 7th Apr 2005:
What do people think of Carinal Arinze of Nigeria? What are the odds on him?

Also, what about our own Cardinal O'Brien?


11:4 and 20:1, respectively. Arinze is the current favourite, with Tettamanzi dropping to 10:3.

As for the papabilite of Cardinal Arinze, I doubt the Church is ready for a covert from animism as Pope - plus he did himself no favours by making 'that' speech at Georgetown a while back...

[Eliot Wilson]

The only strong reason I can see for not picking John Paul III would be a desire on the part of the new Pope to be seen as his own man rather than an addendum to the late Pope's reign, especially if the new Pope is aged and therefore not anticipating a lengthy pontificate.

Pius XIII? Or too associated with condoning the Holocaust now? The choice of a doctrinal and social conservative, perhaps.

Of course, the new Holy Father could break with four hundred years of tradition and take his own name (as no Pope since Marcellus II has).

(Although, if he follows the practice of John Paul I, the new Pope will be John Paul John Paul I...)

[hr]Bill and Ted beat the Grim Reaper at Twister

Bill: "You played very well, Death, especially with your totally heavy Death robes."

Death: "Don't patronise me."

[kaleidoscope_eyes]

this is why I dislike mass religion. If the Pope is next in line to God, then why are humans chosing him? Wouldn't it be logical for God to the give the Pope the power of chosing before he died?
Mass religion is crazy and its followers are unaware that they are slaves to it by being constantly fed hollow comfort from those you proclaim to know better. The Vatican is the holder of so much wealth! How DARE!!! the leader of the Catholic proclaim to be holy when in the Bible there is so much encouragement of helping the poor and needy. IT GETS ME SO ANGRY!!!! HYPOCRITES!!!!! Look at the state of the world???? And the fat fuck just sits there, mouths off about what is "right" and "wrong" and followers respond to him with such admiration!


Yes, what a controversial opinion. Im sure a bible passage is coming up next...

[hr]All you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be...

[RJ Covino]

[s]Eliot Wilson wrote on 21:00, 7th Apr 2005:
Pius XIII?

6:1 odds there. I put my 5er on Benedict at 3:1.

[Humphrey]

[s]kaleidoscope_eyes wrote on 21:12, 7th Apr 2005:
this is why I dislike mass religion. If the Pope is next in line to God, then why are humans chosing him? Wouldn't it be logical for God to the give the Pope the power of chosing before he died?
Mass religion is crazy and its followers are unaware that they are slaves to it by being constantly fed hollow comfort from those you proclaim to know better. The Vatican is the holder of so much wealth! How DARE!!! the leader of the Catholic proclaim to be holy when in the Bible there is so much encouragement of helping the poor and needy. IT GETS ME SO ANGRY!!!! HYPOCRITES!!!!! Look at the state of the world???? And the fat fuck just sits there, mouths off about what is "right" and "wrong" and followers respond to him with such admiration!


Yes, what a controversial opinion. Im sure a bible passage is coming up next...

[hr]All you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be...

12 : And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight."

"13: And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them."

21: Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel

3. Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.




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[Anon.]

I think we need an Urban. Stonking name.

[Malkier]

Unfortunatley the name Urban in the modern context cant help but bring up images of a pope in da hood.

[Paul]

[s]kaleidoscope_eyes wrote on 21:12, 7th Apr 2005:
Mass religion is crazy and its followers are unaware that they are slaves to it by being constantly fed hollow comfort from those you proclaim to know better. The Vatican is the holder of so much wealth! How DARE!!! the leader of the Catholic proclaim to be holy when in the Bible there is so much encouragement of helping the poor and needy. IT GETS ME SO ANGRY!!!! HYPOCRITES!!!!! Look at the state of the world???? And the fat fuck just sits there, mouths off about what is "right" and "wrong" and followers respond to him with such admiration!


Carry on down this road, and you could become another Martin Luther. One of the shocks to his Roman Catholicism was what he saw on a visit to Rome!

[monkeymadness]

Cardinal Oscar Maradiaga. I think (or maybe would like to think) that the Church will avoid the move towards tradition that so many have been forecasting. Maradiaga would fit nicely into a new world approach to Christianity and help avoid the criticisms of an ‘out of touch’ institution.

As for names? Urban IX would be my choice, though I think the less than illustrious past of his namesakes (especially with regard to escapades in the Middle East) may count against this!

‘Your brotherhood, we believe, has long since learned from many accounts that a barbaric fury has deplorably afflicted and laid waste the churches of God in the regions of the Orient.’

I can see some in the US agreeing with this, but perhaps not the rest of the world…