Prostitutes demand GTA ban

[atreus]

Certainly, the entire point of GTA3 and its spin-offs are to run around doing illegal activities. Personally, I loved making the game more exciting by ticking the police off and getting into a huge car chase.
I believe that while the prostitutes have a concern that the next generation of clients has been encouraged by the game to kill prostitutes. If this is the case, then the next generation is likely to be quite criminal, given the nature of GTA3. This is the same rubish that The Economist a few months back dispelled with their investigation into crime rates, drug usage, and religious attitudes of young people as compared with video usage. They found no, or very little, relation between the two.

Anyway, while I don't like it, and would advocate legalising prostitution so we could protect them in established brothels, I believe if they want protection, they could always resort to getting a pimp.

[munchingfoo]

Quoting neener from 14:19, 20th Mar 2006
That is a fucking problem

Yeah - thats pretty much a good defnition of prostitution

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Tired Freudian references aside - your mother played my mighty skin flute like a surf crowned sea nymph trying to rouse Poseidon from his watery slumber!

[flarewearer]

Isn't this a case of confusing chickens and eggs and cause and effect?

People disrespect prostitutes, treat them bad and beat them up because they are prostitues and as such are vulnerable, lack the protection afforded to a lot of society and are in a position where they are exposed to risk. This is in spite of games like GTA, not because of it.

GTA is a computerised representation of real life, and not the other way around.

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[Lodestone]

Quoting Steveo from 15:00, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting neener from 14:46, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting dunqn from 14:40, 20th Mar 2006
You do realise I made the post mostly for controversy's sake, right?

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Doesn't make any of it less true, though.

Social cancers.

Just like Tories.

[Duggeh]

Quoting Lodestone from 18:40, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting Steveo from 15:00, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting neener from 14:46, 20th Mar 2006
[quote]Quoting dunqn from 14:40, 20th Mar 2006
You do realise I made the post mostly for controversy's sake, right?

THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD.

Doesn't make any of it less true, though.

Social cancers.

Just like Tories.[/quote]

Care to explain that assertion?

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[Lodestone]

Quoting Duggeh from 19:13, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting Lodestone from 18:40, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting Steveo from 15:00, 20th Mar 2006
[quote]Quoting neener from 14:46, 20th Mar 2006
[quote]Quoting dunqn from 14:40, 20th Mar 2006
You do realise I made the post mostly for controversy's sake, right?

THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD THANK GOD.

Doesn't make any of it less true, though.

Social cancers.

Just like Tories.[/quote]

Care to explain that assertion?[/quote]

With pleasure: I met Steveo a few nights ago, we had a conversation, and so felt like having a completely random dig.

[Duggeh]

Good enough reasoning for me.

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[Guest]

There also seems to be the most ridiculous assumption that prostitutes don't want their profession to be legal and thus don't want to pay taxes.
Given the blatant disregard for this profession i would wonder what would happen if women just stopped selling sex? If all women just stopped selling sex where would their customers go? And where would some of that aggression go?

[flarewearer]

I hereby urge all gamers and parents not to use prostitutes, and to ensure their children do not use prostitutes as they spread dangerous diseases

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[Lodestone]

Quoting flarewearer from 21:13, 20th Mar 2006
I hereby urge all gamers and parents not to use Tories, and to ensure their children from using Tories as they spread dangerous diseases

I absolutely agree.

[Gubbins]

Quoting dunqn from 15:53, 20th Mar 2006
If you don't contribute to the state, you don't deserve the benefits granted by it. Simple.

You mean like students...?

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...but then again, that is only my opinion.

[flarewearer]

Quoting Lodestone from 21:14, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting flarewearer from 21:13, 20th Mar 2006
I hereby urge all gamers and parents not to use Socialists, and to ensure their children from using Socialism as they spread dangerous diseases

I absolutely agree.

Im glad we are agreed on something

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[Lodestone]

(Socialism? Socialism? Bugger socialism.)

[Smith]

Quoting Gubbins from 22:26, 20th Mar 2006

Quoting dunqn from 15:53, 20th Mar 2006
If you don't contribute to the state, you don't deserve the benefits granted by it. Simple.

You mean like students...?

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...but then again, that is only my opinion.

Errm...

1) Graduate Endowment Tax of £2,000
2) £15,400 student loan that has to be paid back, interest on it is going up with every passing month
3) Some students work as well, and I have been taxed a lot this year.

In fact, considering students go to University to try and further their education and potentially improve society, I think the taxman is being far to harsh on the students of this country.

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Cake, and fine wine.

[Duggeh]

Lets consider the contributions that students make through massive alcohol tax as well.

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[flarewearer]

Stupid people contribute lots to society too by buying too many fags, booze and lottery tickets and being sucked into massive amounts of credit card debts, keeping the economy going

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[motorhead]

i wish i was a pimp, i would treat my bitches with utmost respect

[thebrookster]

Having worked with the Homeless and Prostitutes ranging between 15 to 30, I think that some of the views voiced on this board are completly uneducated, even if they are said to cause controversy. Most prostitutes have been in their "Profession" since they were teenagers. This is normally caused by a split with parents, new step parents etc, or they have discovered hard drugs. Those not on drugs at the start quite often end up on them at a later stage. Quite often this starts of a vicious cycle, which they cannot break without professional help. And where is afore said professional help? It pretty well doesn't exist. There are quite a few charities in most of the major cities that do their best, and they do a fine job with the limited resources that they have. Please bear in mind that they survive on donations from the public, our government don't help. And how many centres for drug rehab etc does our government run or assist? Not many. The government fund 149 Drug Action Teams in the entire of England, with a budget of £478 Million. The NHS provides extra money on top of that. Which sounds fantastic, untill you realise that drug rehab cost up to £4000 per person per week. Someone who has taken Cocaine ONCE in their lives can face an addiction ranging between 6 weeks and 6 years. And how many Prostitutes are there?
In someones earlier post they stated that they should get a job in Asda or something like that. This not feasable. If your average 15 year old who has left home, is a heavy drug user and no hope of quitting for a while,(assuming that they have got a place on one of the NHS Schemes, with several month waiting lists), the prospect of earning £5 per hour, which is being generous, even for 40 hours a week, nets them £200 a week. Out of this most come food, shelter, money for drugs (which can cost up to and over £1500 a day). Is it worth it?

Whilst it is not a career that I would ever choose, for some people it is inevitable. We should be trying to do more to help these people rather than criticising them. I feel that the initial point about them wanting GTA banned is to do with making their lives safer. Do they lose all basic human rights because they become a prostitute? For that matter, why shouldn't they have basic health care etc? Maybe everyone who is jobless shouldn't get benfits? I personnaly like to help my fellow man whenever I can, and denying them their basic rights is inhuman. Dunqn, you say that they should make an effort and contribute to society, and I fully agree, but can we disregard those who are currently cannnot? Would it not be better to help them so that they can contribute?

[motorhead]

my parents split and i am not a hooker. everybody has a choice, in this world. i agree that sometimes your environment influences that choice but come on we cant blame everything on our surroundings. it comes down to the fact that prostitutes do it for money and they earn a lot of money doing it therefor get into a vicious circle of liking the money. this excludes children who are forced into it obviously, but c,mon. bloody liberals

[Haunted]

Quoting thebrookster from 10:48, 21st Mar 2006
...the prospect of earning £5 per hour, which is being generous, even for 40 hours a week, nets them £200 a week. Out of this most come food, shelter, money for drugs (which can cost up to and over £1500 a day). Is it worth it?

Who says they have to spend to money on drugs?

...for some people it is inevitable.

Bollocks. It is something to which you have to make a concious decision to do. If you don't want to do it then you won't.