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Postby A66 on Tue May 09, 2006 7:59 pm

Quoting Ben Reilly from 20:57, 9th May 2006
The departments of SOML that are affected are French and Film Studies,


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Postby Bonnie on Tue May 09, 2006 8:20 pm

One of my tutors is French. He joked that he isn't a member of a union and doesn't strike because it's not his type of strike.
"If there aren't any burning cars and smashed windows, it's not my type of strike."

I still laugh.

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Postby Guest on Tue May 09, 2006 9:22 pm

Quoting Ben Reilly from 20:57, 9th May 2006
The students on the modules are going to be told as soon as the appropriate wording has been put together. I'll also try and get linkup out tonight, but it's more likely to be tomorrow morning.

The departments of SOML that are affected are French and Film Studies, but I'm afraid that I may not be more specific than that.


Film studies is a mickey mouse degree so who cares, but people in the French dept need their degrees! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Postby dazed on Tue May 09, 2006 9:24 pm

thanks for your help ben. single honours French student here... tommorrows revelations should be interesting! does it mean a september exam diet?
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Postby veryconcerned on Tue May 09, 2006 9:24 pm

ok, so 3 lecturers, 5 modules. 1 lecturer teaches 2 modules, im 99% sure that is french dept lecturer.

ok so remaining 2, is it another from french? or 2 from film studies?

have been scouring SOML webpage to try work out who teaches what to try and deduce who it could be...

im wasting a lot of revision time i know. but finding it rather hard to revise with all this stress.

i am glad though that most lecturers have agreed to let students sit exams. i still support their cause. but as an SOML honours student i am getting a bit restless. and it would be nice to receive some info from the departments themselves, as to when we may have the exams. later in the diet? in september?

SOML also ought to understand that its students are also very likely to be working abroad this summer and need to organize flights, contract dates..and on small luggage limiits goodness knows how short loan can be photocopied and taken abroad. and plus..like most students SOML students will be working hard-and-full time all summer to pay off st andrews living costs and save for next academic year if they have one.
fitting revision in for a september exam diet as well as trying to read rather thick set texts for next academic semester is a rather tall order.

sorry, i dont want to appear like a moaner...but im pretty worried.

when may we find out?
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Postby rubbermuffin on Tue May 09, 2006 10:20 pm

No surprise to see that it's the Frogs causing all the bloody trouble.

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Postby Guest on Wed May 10, 2006 11:16 am

I support the lecturers strike when they teach a real subject... but film studies?
What's their excuse?
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Postby Guest on Wed May 10, 2006 11:17 am

still no emails to SOML students.

if the exams for these particular 5 exams take place in september will they be in the resit diet?

a bit irritating if they are rescheduled for september, dont see how people who have worked hard on these honours modules may have to revise in summer and cut short their summer/jobs.

when will we find out?

I appreciate Ben Reilly's efforts to keep us posted, he is doing a great job which cant be easy. but i think it is at the stage now when we should be told exactly who is affected and what will happen by the departments concerned.
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Postby Guest on Wed May 10, 2006 11:33 am

for those 5 modules concerned will we have exams?

or will an average of some sort be worked out from coursework like in some other universities?

personally id rather just sit them in may but it would be nice to know what is going on.
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News from Strathclyde

Postby flarewearer on Wed May 10, 2006 1:11 pm

"The University of Strathclyde has given senior staff licence to dock the salary of lecturers who fail to set exams by up to 30% over a three-week period."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/gla ... 757215.stm

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Postby dazed on Wed May 10, 2006 1:18 pm

ok, they really are taking the mickey mouse now! is anyone else sadly sitting refreshing their webmail every ten minutes wishing that an email has arrived?
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Postby Bread Roll on Wed May 10, 2006 1:41 pm

Quoting dazed from 13:46, 10th May 2006
ok, they really are taking the mickey mouse now! is anyone else sadly sitting refreshing their webmail every ten minutes wishing that an email has arrived?


Yes. Have been doing since last night. You'd have thought that at least the lecturers who HAVE set exams could let the students know they were set so we could stop worrying about those modules. I have my suspicions about which members of the French dept are involved but until I get an email, still feeling a bit in limbo - and completely ignored.

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Postby [James] on Wed May 10, 2006 3:27 pm

Quoting That Smug Bastard Again

To all staff and students

You may by now be aware that talks held between UCEA and the AUT and
NATFHE unions with a view to resolving the national pay dispute have
ended in impasse. The unions have rejected UCEA's improved offer of
12.6% over three years while UCEA has confirmed the offer is at the
"very limit" of what it can afford. Most significantly, no new talks
are planned. There can now be no doubt that this highly damaging
dispute is influenced chiefly by English funding considerations and
the English exam timetable. Scottish universities and Scottish
students however will most likely be the main casualties of this
continuing national stand-off. Tens of thousands of students in
Scotland are now facing the prospect of being unable to graduate this
summer.

In St Andrews, our efforts to find a local solution and the efforts
of our staff to avoid inflicting this kind of damage upon students
and their future career prospects have made substantial progress. No
matter their views on the dispute, the overwhelming majority of
colleagues have put the interests of their students first and will
ensure examinations proceed. I can confirm that our examination diet
will go ahead as scheduled and that all students will be able to
graduate. The current position is that only one member of staff in
the University remains unwilling to submit or contribute to a total
of four exam papers. We are communicating with all students who are
affected by the withholding of these four papers and considering
various contingency arrangements.

The University will honour its commitment to increase salaries by 5%
on August 1st 2006, 3.5% in August 2007 and 3.5% in August 2008. We
will also maintain our commitment to honour any national settlement,
should it be in excess of our local offer. In our shared desire to
put the interests of our students first and to find a local solution,
St Andrews has led by example. Our staff have acted responsibly and
in good faith and our students have clearly expressed their support
for improved academic pay while making clear their abhorrence of
tactics designed to damage their education and careers. We recognise
that the dispute and its effects will continue and will have
implications at both national level and a local level in St Andrews.
We will of course continue to keep you informed of developments.

Thank you for your patience.


Brian Lang
Principal and Vice-Chancellor

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Postby smile on Wed May 10, 2006 3:43 pm

[quote]Quoting [James] from 16:27, 10th May 2006
[quote]Quoting That Smug Bastard Again

I can confirm that our examination diet
will go ahead as scheduled and that all students will be able to
graduate. The current position is that only one member of staff in
the University remains unwilling to submit or contribute to a total
of four exam papers. We are communicating with all students who are
affected by the withholding of these four papers and considering
various contingency arrangements.



Contradiction or what?! In one sentence everything will go ahead as planned and then in the next breath he decides it won't - crazy man!
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Postby Steveo on Wed May 10, 2006 3:48 pm

I think Dr Lang has dealt with this superbly in the past few weeks, and that one member of staff is buggering the whole process is despicable.

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Postby dazed on Wed May 10, 2006 4:13 pm

ok, how can we have gone from 3 lecturers affecting 5 modules to 1 affecting 4? hello?
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Postby Bizarre Atheist on Wed May 10, 2006 4:19 pm

So who do we think it is?

...[i]This[i/] guy?

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Postby Ben Reilly on Wed May 10, 2006 4:21 pm

It would appear that two more members of staff have submitted the papers.
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Postby Steveo on Wed May 10, 2006 4:36 pm

Quoting dazed from 16:30, 10th May 2006
ok, how can we have gone from 3 lecturers affecting 5 modules to 1 affecting 4? hello?


I mean, really, that's just daft.

They submitted them, obviously.

Christ, no wonder this place is going down the tubes.

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Postby A66 on Wed May 10, 2006 4:51 pm

Quoting Steveo from 17:36, 10th May 2006
Quoting dazed from 16:30, 10th May 2006
ok, how can we have gone from 3 lecturers affecting 5 modules to 1 affecting 4? hello?


I mean, really, that's just daft.

They submitted them, obviously.

Christ, no wonder this place is going down the tubes.

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Feel free to woosh me if this has just gone over my head but...

5 Modules with 3 lecturers
4 Modules with 1 lecturer

So one extra module has an exam submited, but seemingly by two lecturers.

Looking at the French website only one person does four modules, so it's him right? Oh I should get back to revising my own subjects
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